There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.
International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other states.
The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen’s Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.
I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.
Ownership of land with agreed-upon borders defines a country. A nation needs to govern its land, but does not necessarily have permanent agreed-upon borders. That’s why Palestine is a nation, but not a country, for example.
You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.
I agree that both settlements were wrong. Now that there’s an established system to define nations and countries, I think it’s important to be informed on how it works.
For example, the “favor” Netanyahu does by telling Palestinians to evacuate couldn’t be more corrupt. Since Palestine is a nation, but not a country with defined borders, full evacuation of settled land is no longer under their control and can legally be taken by Israel.
The same is not true for Ukraine, for example. Since it is a country, if all Ukrainians evacuate an area due to Russian invasion, it becomes a Russian occupation of Ukraine, not Russian land.
There are criteria. It’s not simply self declared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state
So an army and a mailing address?
The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen’s Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.
I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.
Ownership of land with agreed-upon borders defines a country. A nation needs to govern its land, but does not necessarily have permanent agreed-upon borders. That’s why Palestine is a nation, but not a country, for example.
Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.
Gtfo
You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.
And I am clarifying to you that Israel doesn’t recognize any such laws so they don’t get any benefit of them.
It is an illegal colonization program conducted at a gun point with forced removals and genocide.
So we are all clear here.
By that logic, so is the US.
Prolly why US population was easily swayed to support this degeneracy
Two wrongs don’t make a right and Israel is doing this right now and we are letting them.
I agree that both settlements were wrong. Now that there’s an established system to define nations and countries, I think it’s important to be informed on how it works.
For example, the “favor” Netanyahu does by telling Palestinians to evacuate couldn’t be more corrupt. Since Palestine is a nation, but not a country with defined borders, full evacuation of settled land is no longer under their control and can legally be taken by Israel.
The same is not true for Ukraine, for example. Since it is a country, if all Ukrainians evacuate an area due to Russian invasion, it becomes a Russian occupation of Ukraine, not Russian land.
I am not going to pretend that UN can roll back Israel now. Mostly being cheeky and drawing attention on the international law and how Israel acts.
I agree with your sentiment too but there is no way that anyone can force Israel besides US…
Our regime can’t give women maternity leave, I highly doubt they give two fucks about Israel doing a genocide.
By the time they will, gazans will be removed and likely west bank too.
We are past two states solution. Israel won. This is a mop up.