Hungarian PM Viktor Orban sparked anger last week by accusing the EU of pursuing a "pro-war policy".

The European Union has stripped Hungary of the right to host the next meeting of foreign and defence ministers over its stance on the war in Ukraine.

It comes weeks after Hungary assumed the presidency of the Council of the European Union, a role in which it would normally host the event, and amid anger over a meeting Prime Minister Viktor Orban held with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow earlier this month.

The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, said Hungary’s actions should have consequences and that “we have to send a signal, even if it is a symbolic signal”.

Hungary described the move as “completely childish”.

  • @[email protected]English
    7•2 months ago

    You must know how strategically asinine it would be to boot Turkey from NATO, right? It would basically hand the Black Sea to Russia. Turkey would reclassify the Ukrainian war as an internal conflict or something like that, which would let Russia bring pretty much their whole navy into the Black Sea if they wanted to, which would have dire consequences for Ukraine.

    Also, this conversation is not about NATO. It’s about the EU.

    • @MaalusEnglish
      1•2 months ago

      Read the posts again. They are saying “close off any talks with Turkey” meaning closing diplomacy. They are calling to boot out Hungary. Both shitty geopolitical moves that I am making fun of.

      • @[email protected]English
        1•2 months ago

        Would do a much better job by throwing out the second biggest military (after the US) out of NATO

        This is the sentence I was specifically responding to.

        But I also disagree with your more general sentiment. If a leader/country establishes a behavioral pattern that consistently works against the interests of the group they’re in, the group in question is fully justified in kicking them out of said group - or at least, severely curtailing the bad actor’s influence in that group.

        • @MaalusEnglish
          1•2 months ago

          The entire comment is sarcastic, hence the “good job mr president”. Of course all of the things that OP suggested and I then made fun of are stupid.

          As for the “group” - not how it works with nations and geopolitics. This isn’t a friend circle with a drunkie in it.