Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.
In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.
Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.
That’s not really how churn works but okay.
Unless by apples you mean society in general, because people are everywhere. But that’s more indicative of your bushel, not ours lol.
No, I mean the police in general. Do you really not know how police were even worse to black people before the Civil Rights act?
… so… you’re in agreement with them lol?
How did you even come close to getting that from what I said?
It’s a hard time trying to understand what you’re even saying. You’re agreeing or even qualifying what I wrote, but replying in a tone like you’re not lol. It’s hard to take it seriously.
I am neither. I am telling you that there are no “few bad apples” to get out of the police because the whole thing is already rotten to the core and has been for a very long time since there’s never been reformation, just a few laws to stop some of the most egregious behavior.
So maybe you’re not familiar with churn then. Churn is the turn over rate for employees. I also think you misunderstand what reformation means, how long it takes, and that there’s no tipping point of when something is reformed or not. It wasn’t magically Roman Catholicism to Lutheranism after Luther penned the 95 Theses lol.
You already said that civil rights have gotten better.
You already agreed there are new laws and increased oversight regularly.
Employees turn over as there is natural churn. Combined with churn from increased oversight and scrutiny preventing bad people or stopping heinous shit. You also have lawsuits and criminal proceedings to get rid of bad police.
How do you propose 1 works without 2 and 3? How do you posit that police aren’t better almost year by year if the entire bushel is spoiled?
No, I said the civil rights laws exist, making the most egregious behavior harder to get away with.
I’d tell you to ask George Floyd if things have gotten better. Or Breonna Taylor. Or Philando Castile. Or Sonya Massey. Except none of them can tell you anymore.
There are no “good apple” cops. None.
… Again, that doesn’t make sense. Do the laws make their behavior better, yes or no?
Because once again you’re saying they do, but somehow they’re not as well. Schrodinger’s ACAB.
Here, have some literature about past, current, and future reformations and best practices. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0002716219889328
Have some on churn: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/1009578809/cops-say-low-morale-and-department-scrutiny-are-driving-them-away-from-the-job
Police killings not being statistically higher or lower between 2013 and 2016: https://policebrutalitycenter.org/police-brutality/statistics/
Police shootings of black people and unarmed lowering in 2020: https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21276472/police-killing-statistics-african-american
Little hard data to show that policing hasn’t improved since the civil rights era but I have a hard time believing differently: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/long-painful-history-police-brutality-in-the-us-180964098/