Except you don’t need to eat animals and so it is the same. You’re killing animals for your entertainment, just because you eat them after that doesn’t change anything.
the person doing the killing is usually paid by someone but most people are neither killing nor paying the killers. they are both paid long before someone walks into a grocery store.
they are paid because people buy the products. if nobody bought the products, there would be no money in it. are you trying to say that people would be paid to kill animals even if nobody bought animal products?
People have eaten meat for thousands of years. That’s been a matter of survival, not entertainment.
But my comment was about people taking joy in killing, which is what the meme is about, not taking joy in eating,. I appreciate your zeal but I’d prefer you to not ascribe to me arguments I didn’t make
Furthermore, I don’t care what you think. You come up with silly bullshit like ‘you’re killing animals for entertainment’ as if they’re not consumed for food. Dislike meat eating all you want, but use your fucking brain - if it’s being killed for consumption (it’s an industry, so like, that part is important, capitalism gotta cha-ching or it’s not doing it’s insidious thing) and the factories aren’t putting out a live stream, in fact, they go to great lengths to make sure NO ONE from the outside see how the sausage is made. So it’s not entertainment.
With thoughts like these, it would be counterproductive to waste any time caring what you think about, that would be a waste of calories.
I don’t eat for entertainment, I don’t have that kind of budget.
and I don’t think the people eating pork are doing it from a “GEE THIS SURE IS LUXURIOUS INPUT” - I think it’s mostly cheap protein with many downsides.
yes I still eat bacon when I can get it. no I don’t consider it ‘entertainment’ .
Imagine I have two choices: end world hunger, or end world hunger and kick a puppy. If I choose to end world hunger but also kick a puppy…well I’m kinda a dick, right? Ultimately I did a very good thing ending word hunger, so on balance, my actions are “net positive.” But the choice I actually made was to kick a puppy.
Now, I need to eat. So I have a choice: eat yummy food and don’t kill an animal, or eat yummier food and do kill and animal. The choice I’m effectively faced with is, “kill an animal for better taste.”
It’s totally up to you to decide if that is a good choice for you personally.
If course it’s not always so simple, and there are financial, cultural, and health reasons that complicate this. But for some folks (like myself) that’s kinda how I view it.
Oh I fully agree that not eating meat is the better alternative. I just thing the meme was stupid. There’s plenty of valid reasons to promote eating less meat without making up strawmen
We need to eat. We don’t need tol take joy in aninal deaths. These are different things and the meme is dumb.
Except you don’t need to eat animals and so it is the same. You’re killing animals for your entertainment, just because you eat them after that doesn’t change anything.
you don’t know what they need. and I seriously doubt they are killing for entertainment. I doubt they kill anything at all.
Paying someone to kill someone/something for you is still killing.
“but what if they have a medical condition that doesn’t exist that I just made up”
Pretty unlikely.
most people don’t do that, either
how do you think meat gets to the grocery store? someone has to kill an animal, and the person buying the meat typically pays money for it.
the person doing the killing is usually paid by someone but most people are neither killing nor paying the killers. they are both paid long before someone walks into a grocery store.
they are paid because people buy the products. if nobody bought the products, there would be no money in it. are you trying to say that people would be paid to kill animals even if nobody bought animal products?
i’m saying i know how linear time works, so i know that buying meat on a shelf can’t have caused the animal it came from to be killed.
I didn’t say anything about a medical condition
People have eaten meat for thousands of years. That’s been a matter of survival, not entertainment. But my comment was about people taking joy in killing, which is what the meme is about, not taking joy in eating,. I appreciate your zeal but I’d prefer you to not ascribe to me arguments I didn’t make
sure thing edgelord.
I don’t think you know what that word means.
coulda stopped there.
Furthermore, I don’t care what you think. You come up with silly bullshit like ‘you’re killing animals for entertainment’ as if they’re not consumed for food. Dislike meat eating all you want, but use your fucking brain - if it’s being killed for consumption (it’s an industry, so like, that part is important, capitalism gotta cha-ching or it’s not doing it’s insidious thing) and the factories aren’t putting out a live stream, in fact, they go to great lengths to make sure NO ONE from the outside see how the sausage is made. So it’s not entertainment.
With thoughts like these, it would be counterproductive to waste any time caring what you think about, that would be a waste of calories.
The “entertainment” here I believe refers to the pleasurable experience of eating the animal as food. Since it’s not out of necessity
I don’t eat for entertainment, I don’t have that kind of budget.
and I don’t think the people eating pork are doing it from a “GEE THIS SURE IS LUXURIOUS INPUT” - I think it’s mostly cheap protein with many downsides.
yes I still eat bacon when I can get it. no I don’t consider it ‘entertainment’ .
what a silly discussion.
Beans and lentils are cheaper protein, you buy meat because you prefer the taste. That’s a type of entertainment.
your face is a type of entertainment.
I’m vegan btw. The meme is making fun of people who eat for taste pleasure and not any other type :)
no one but vegans form the phrase “taste pleasure”.
Imagine I have two choices: end world hunger, or end world hunger and kick a puppy. If I choose to end world hunger but also kick a puppy…well I’m kinda a dick, right? Ultimately I did a very good thing ending word hunger, so on balance, my actions are “net positive.” But the choice I actually made was to kick a puppy.
Now, I need to eat. So I have a choice: eat yummy food and don’t kill an animal, or eat yummier food and do kill and animal. The choice I’m effectively faced with is, “kill an animal for better taste.”
It’s totally up to you to decide if that is a good choice for you personally.
If course it’s not always so simple, and there are financial, cultural, and health reasons that complicate this. But for some folks (like myself) that’s kinda how I view it.
Oh I fully agree that not eating meat is the better alternative. I just thing the meme was stupid. There’s plenty of valid reasons to promote eating less meat without making up strawmen