The allies were able to fight the Nazis without becoming the Nazis.
Agreed. I think that level of aggression is needed to solve this issue as well. We aren’t doing that, though. We are supporting Kyiv just enough to survive while the enemy ignores rule after rule against them.
It should be made clear to Russia that when they ignore the rules, they are removing the rules that protect them as well. I do not mean to suggest a blanket free-for-all of atrocities, but rather the crossing of some useful lines that we wouldn’t normally cross.
But you can rest assured no one is going to do anything because our leadership seems fine with Ukraine being slowly bled to death. Assassinations, explosive aggression and a bit of “unfair” behavior should be on the table to bring an end to this. Unfortunately, an end doesn’t seem to be our goal, as we are allowing this to last for years.
I do not mean to suggest a blanket free-for-all of atrocities, but rather the crossing of some useful lines that we wouldn’t normally cross.
And I’m telling you, that leads to escalation. Russia will then do something worse. Should Ukraine do something worse to then in return? At what point does it stop?
Your point is valid. I disagree that such action should be avoided. Holding our current pattern will result in continued death of the innocent.
I believe a much more aggressive posture is needed to win. That posture should include threats that surprise and instill fear and should be followed with swift action (which does not necessarily include atrocities).
There is a massive gulf between not bending or negotiating and committing war crimes.
The allies were able to fight the Nazis without becoming the Nazis.
Agreed. I think that level of aggression is needed to solve this issue as well. We aren’t doing that, though. We are supporting Kyiv just enough to survive while the enemy ignores rule after rule against them.
Okay, but that’s a different subject. This started with the suggestion that if Russia is committing war crimes, Ukraine should as well.
It should be made clear to Russia that when they ignore the rules, they are removing the rules that protect them as well. I do not mean to suggest a blanket free-for-all of atrocities, but rather the crossing of some useful lines that we wouldn’t normally cross.
But you can rest assured no one is going to do anything because our leadership seems fine with Ukraine being slowly bled to death. Assassinations, explosive aggression and a bit of “unfair” behavior should be on the table to bring an end to this. Unfortunately, an end doesn’t seem to be our goal, as we are allowing this to last for years.
And I’m telling you, that leads to escalation. Russia will then do something worse. Should Ukraine do something worse to then in return? At what point does it stop?
Your point is valid. I disagree that such action should be avoided. Holding our current pattern will result in continued death of the innocent.
I believe a much more aggressive posture is needed to win. That posture should include threats that surprise and instill fear and should be followed with swift action (which does not necessarily include atrocities).