• mozz
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    People have the right to vote or not vote and be proud.

    This is like those people who are proud not to take their medications they are Real Americans or whatever and they don’t need no one to tell them what to do, and will “stand up for themselves” and their freedom to do whatever, up until something really really fucking bad happens.

    If you are not voting in this election, or voting third party, you are flirting with a catastrophic undoing of any possibility of real leftist progress for quite a long time. In my opinion. If you wanna work for the stuff on Jill Stein’s list of priorities, which does sound quite good, fuckin a man let’s get to work. There are things we can do right now. Waiting until November and voting for her specifically, in this specific election, is very far from anything that will achieve those goals.

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      Thanks for sharing your views. I will quickly write up my views as well, so as to know more on why I support ceratin groups and parites:

      You are for the constitution and our human-born rights, or you are not.

      It seems you are only for those rights when it appeals to your views and not when it does not agree with your way of thinking.

      If you are a “real leftist,” then why do you support the duopoly and their undemocratic policies and laws that only help the owner class?

      If you wanna work for the stuff on Jill Stein’s list of priorities, which does sound quite good, fuckin a man let’s get to work. There are things we can do right now. Waiting until November and voting for her specifically, in this specific election, is very far from anything that will achieve those goals.

      I recommend looking into what these groups and many others that I support and share have been doing since way before the general elections take place.

      The work these people do exists and continues to help people in our local communities even if you do not expose yourself to the work they are doing.

      Mantra:

      We should focus our actions, time, and resources on Direct Action, Mutual Aid, and Community Outreach. If you do engage in Electoral Politics do not support the Duopoly (Red or Blue Team). No War but Class War!

      I hope this helps explain my thoughts on the matter and to help you look into groups like the ones I share—there are many people that do not support the duopoly, and we are still helping our communities where and when we can.

      We are not waiting for a savior or thinking that voting will magically help the working class; that is why we focus on informing the working class and organizing against the owner class. ___

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        It seems you are only for those rights when it appeals to your views and not when it does not agree with your way of thinking.

        What on earth are you talking about

        I am for those rights, which means I’m in favor of actions that will preserve and extend them, and against actions which might catastrophically destroy them

        This is like someone saying if you DON’T want your family member to die of cancer why are you taking her to these DOCTORS who are making her feel even worse, and can’t make much progress, instead of to the crystal lady who promises to heal her completely and easily

        Like yes, I am against the cancer as much as you are. The difference is that you are refusing to use a powerful tool that can impact the situation, and putting on this stupid cloak of virtue because you’re above it all. Well, good fuckin luck with that, I hope enough people aside from you have sense enough that the cancer doesn’t actually come for you next year.

        help you look into groups like the ones I share

        Which ones? I may have missed them but mostly I see you post memes, and encourage people not to vote, and criticize the Democrats. If there was a mutual aid or union drive thing in there I literally managed to miss it 100%