• @idiomaddict
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    35 months ago

    Oh no, FDR? After I learned about Timor Leste and Carter, I thought there was at least one really great president… I guess I’m going to have to angrily read Wikipedia

    • @PugJesusOPM
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      55 months ago

      Japanese-American internment.

      • @idiomaddict
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        5 months ago

        Oh, yeah, that’s an entirely reasonable criticism.

        Edit: wait, was Biden actually the most progressive American president? Holy shit

        • @PugJesusOPM
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          35 months ago

          lmao, it’s like winning by default.

          With all seriousness, though, I think it’s reasonable to judge historical figures by the standards of their time - at least the higher standards of their time. Those who take steps away from repeating the horrors of our past should be (critically and conditionally) admired, while those who take steps back should be scorned as the shitheads they are.

          • @RestrictedAccount
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            25 months ago

            I try to judge historical figures by where they ended versus what was normal when they were young.

            Otherwise there is nothing left but smugly judging the past by our fleeting standards and missing the real lessons of the past.

        • @FireTower
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          35 months ago

          There’s probably an argument for a few of the Progressive Republicans.