• @Mango
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    -33 months ago

    Where am I gonna look? I personally have a conviction for something I didn’t do because the legal process is lazy and malicious, so I won’t be trusting that either. Who am I to believe any digital story?

    • Lightor
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      33 months ago

      You’re not helpless to look up facts. If you’re asking where to look go to the source. For the example I mentioned you can look at her platform. Your stance seems to be very close to the “how can we know anything” which is often pushed as a mindset when a group of bad actors calls everything into question to avoid accountability. Truths can be known, things can be confirmed.

      As for court, I said it’s more trustworthy, but not absolute by any means. It’s controlled by people, and people are not infallible.

      • @Mango
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        -33 months ago

        Nothing is knowable. The map is not the territory and mappers have motivations.

        • Lightor
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          03 months ago

          So you don’t know your own name, how to read or type? Impressive.

          • @Mango
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            -33 months ago

            Names are arbitrary and I think the officiation of my name is only useful for financial purposes. I can read and type for sure, but who is to decide that the way I’m doing it is correct? Besides, these are working knowledge rather than truth of the matter. We can work with electricity without knowing it’s full nature. Apparently electricity is incredibly weird.

            • Lightor
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              23 months ago

              You can clearly understand the concepts I’m conveying. We’re having a conversation. Acting like we can’t know anything is silly.

              Yes, we can use things without knowing how they work, but even then we know how to use it. You know how to type to express yourself, and clearly you’re doing it right because I can read it. I feel like this is trying to be existential but is just very 13 year old “deep thoughts”.

              • @Mango
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                -13 months ago

                What can a computer know? Only what signals you feed it. Whether those signals are true or not can’t really be determined. Doesn’t matter if you send a million of the same thing. Labeled as “peer review”. There is no determining what is the certain truth of something. It’s the reason we have English prime.

                • Lightor
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                  23 months ago

                  Yes there is. You’re acting like objective truths don’t exist. Water is made of 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen atoms. We know this, we can repeat it, it is predictable. This is why the scientific method exists.

                  I mean you’re expressing a lot of strong opinions for someone who says they don’t know anything. You seem to know enough to disagree with me at the very least lol.

                  • @Mango
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                    -13 months ago

                    Objective truths only exist in information handling from a singular perspective. That water you’re talking about can just as easily be part of a simulation. A better example of an objective truth is that 2 inputs in an AND gate turned on outputs on. You can show me something you call an AND gate and show me a million results with various inputs and outputs and I can learn to trust it even, but I can’t determine with absolute certainly that it’s an AND gate. I’ll still play with it though. It’s working knowledge, not absolute truth. You should look up English prime.