Oh, they meant Trump has a psychosocial disability? They’re insulting a right wing politician using an ableist slur that serves to increase stigma against a vulnerable population?
Nah man, fuck enabling Narcissists. Dealing with Narcissists is a nightmare enough without giving them an easy shield to hide behind almost TAILORED to their disability in a way that they’ll never have to learn skills to overcome their incredibly damaging and harmful behaviours
You don’t overcome a lifelong disability. You learn to live with it and work around it. You think all people with NPD are abusers. What, you think neurodivergence is cured when a person learns mindfulness? No, even if they are 100% on top of their mental health, they still have a disability. They are still targeted by the slur you’re using.
You need to provide a path for people with NPD to recover, by believing that someone can be healthy, happy, and safe to be around and still have the disability. Because if you don’t believe it, how do you expect them to believe it? And if they don’t believe they can get better and be treated better, how can they possibly try?
The difference with narcissism compared to other disabilities is an uncontrolled narcissist WILL fuck up MANY peoples lives, and while it sucks that it is indeed a person with a disability, I care more for the people who cared about the narcissist that the narcissist will eventually throw under the bus than I care about a single narcissist. Narcissism is a socially dangerous disability, and coddling them will make them even more dangerous
Sounds like you’ve never had to deal with a Narcissist before, I really hope you dont have to, even if your B.S. might lead others into becoming the victim of one (that is unless you’re one yourself, your communication style IS giving off red flags, in which case, get professional help, your disability isnt an excuse to hurt others, and none of your victims will care that you have NPD once you’ve hurt them)
I don’t have NPD. I have a different personality disorder, STPD. It never hurt anyone but me. And I’ve met people with NPD and theirs only hurt themselves too. You’re the one who I think has never met someone with NPD. You’re talking about them like they’re orcs. Fantasy creatures imbued with essential evil. Inhuman and impossible to reason with. That’s the impression I’m getting of what you think of disabled people.
You need to provide a path for people with NPD to recover, by believing that someone can be healthy, happy, and safe to be around and still have the disability.
Okay, but you don’t have to provide them a path to be President of a fucking country.
Providing a path for people with disability to have a healthy happy life does not mean providing a path for a quadraplageic to compete in the pole vault, a pedophile to work in children’s beauty pageants, or a narcissist to be President.
I’m not defending him, I’m defending the innocent disabled people who are attacked as collateral damage when you use ableist slurs. You’re the one who’s attributing Trump’s evil to a mental disorder caused by childhood trauma, instead of attributing it to a choice. I think Trump chose to be evil. You think he has no agency in it. You’re the one who’s downplaying his willful, intentional fascism. I’m saying that he’s entirely to blame for it.
Suppose someone says “Trump is a f*ggot! The reason he raped all this women is because he’s a perverted godless homo!” If I say Trump’s not gay, am I defending him?
Oh, they meant Trump has a psychosocial disability? They’re insulting a right wing politician using an ableist slur that serves to increase stigma against a vulnerable population?
Nah man, fuck enabling Narcissists. Dealing with Narcissists is a nightmare enough without giving them an easy shield to hide behind almost TAILORED to their disability in a way that they’ll never have to learn skills to overcome their incredibly damaging and harmful behaviours
You don’t overcome a lifelong disability. You learn to live with it and work around it. You think all people with NPD are abusers. What, you think neurodivergence is cured when a person learns mindfulness? No, even if they are 100% on top of their mental health, they still have a disability. They are still targeted by the slur you’re using.
You need to provide a path for people with NPD to recover, by believing that someone can be healthy, happy, and safe to be around and still have the disability. Because if you don’t believe it, how do you expect them to believe it? And if they don’t believe they can get better and be treated better, how can they possibly try?
The difference with narcissism compared to other disabilities is an uncontrolled narcissist WILL fuck up MANY peoples lives, and while it sucks that it is indeed a person with a disability, I care more for the people who cared about the narcissist that the narcissist will eventually throw under the bus than I care about a single narcissist. Narcissism is a socially dangerous disability, and coddling them will make them even more dangerous
Everything you just said is a lie made up to sell self-help books to suckers.
Sounds like you’ve never had to deal with a Narcissist before, I really hope you dont have to, even if your B.S. might lead others into becoming the victim of one (that is unless you’re one yourself, your communication style IS giving off red flags, in which case, get professional help, your disability isnt an excuse to hurt others, and none of your victims will care that you have NPD once you’ve hurt them)
I don’t have NPD. I have a different personality disorder, STPD. It never hurt anyone but me. And I’ve met people with NPD and theirs only hurt themselves too. You’re the one who I think has never met someone with NPD. You’re talking about them like they’re orcs. Fantasy creatures imbued with essential evil. Inhuman and impossible to reason with. That’s the impression I’m getting of what you think of disabled people.
Okay, but you don’t have to provide them a path to be President of a fucking country.
Providing a path for people with disability to have a healthy happy life does not mean providing a path for a quadraplageic to compete in the pole vault, a pedophile to work in children’s beauty pageants, or a narcissist to be President.
Trump doesn’t have NPD. The guy who wrote the DSM entry on NPD says so.
Then why are you defending him like he does?
I’m not defending him, I’m defending the innocent disabled people who are attacked as collateral damage when you use ableist slurs. You’re the one who’s attributing Trump’s evil to a mental disorder caused by childhood trauma, instead of attributing it to a choice. I think Trump chose to be evil. You think he has no agency in it. You’re the one who’s downplaying his willful, intentional fascism. I’m saying that he’s entirely to blame for it.
Suppose someone says “Trump is a f*ggot! The reason he raped all this women is because he’s a perverted godless homo!” If I say Trump’s not gay, am I defending him?