• @yetiftw
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        15 months ago

        that is an effect, not a definition

        • @[email protected]
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          25 months ago

          No, it’s a definition. I’m a utilitarian, so I only value pleasure and avoiding suffering.

          • @yetiftw
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            15 months ago

            but what about a general definition of value that encapsulates everyone’s experiences and not only yours?

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              25 months ago

              I don’t care who experiences the pleasure or suffering. Individual ego is an illusion. The self is a social construct. The divisions between oneself and others are a lie.

              • @yetiftw
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                15 months ago

                you misunderstand. you told me what you value. I asked for a definition of value. something can be valuable (by being valuable to someone else) even if you yourself do not value it

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                  05 months ago

                  Why would I agree that Harry Potter is valuable if I don’t and cannot value it, even for its net effect on others?