I read a Rabbi’s take once, that he believes Genesis 1 is based on a vision that YHWH gave to one of the prophets (it was added later than the second creation story). He argued that it’s not supposed to be envisioned from a cosmic perspective, which is something of a modern take, but a terrestrial one, as if “figuratively standing on the earth - a cloud of dust - as God forms everything around it.” So the creation of light is the sun, but the sun isn’t visible unless the sky begins to clear.
Just thought I’d share that take. I always thought it was an interesting one.
The great thing about rhetoric is that any smart enough person can do any number of mental gymnastics to create a semi-plausible argument. But as a society we need to move away from things which aren’t grounded in reality
Honestly there’s innumerable works of fiction that’d be better for deriving meaning, morals, and advice for navigating life’s complexities.
The key is to embrace that it’s fiction. it doesn’t need to be literally true for a piece of writing to be used that way.
I learned this in 8th grade when my teacher had us read the book The Hatchet and treat it like the bible… which was to interpret the text and find life lessons in it. Great teacher. I still use what I learned from her class.
this is part of what moved me from agnostic 50/50 to athiest decimal to 99decimal. Its like yeah you can rationalize and tinker and whatnot no matter what the base stuff you start with is. Granted though most of the change for me was qanon.
well so extreme agnostics like I was, real fence sitter types, tend to have, or at least I had. This idea of there must be something to religion even if its really skewed or such. The idea is that common folks can’t possibly be believing some bs and then live their whole lives around it and pass it down generations. And its easy to think that way when the origins are all lost in time. Seeing straight out examples of it in real time. wow. it opened my eyes.
I read a Rabbi’s take once, that he believes Genesis 1 is based on a vision that YHWH gave to one of the prophets (it was added later than the second creation story). He argued that it’s not supposed to be envisioned from a cosmic perspective, which is something of a modern take, but a terrestrial one, as if “figuratively standing on the earth - a cloud of dust - as God forms everything around it.” So the creation of light is the sun, but the sun isn’t visible unless the sky begins to clear.
Just thought I’d share that take. I always thought it was an interesting one.
The great thing about rhetoric is that any smart enough person can do any number of mental gymnastics to create a semi-plausible argument. But as a society we need to move away from things which aren’t grounded in reality
As long as we take it as seriously as Marvel movies I think it’s fine.
Honestly there’s innumerable works of fiction that’d be better for deriving meaning, morals, and advice for navigating life’s complexities.
The key is to embrace that it’s fiction. it doesn’t need to be literally true for a piece of writing to be used that way.
I learned this in 8th grade when my teacher had us read the book The Hatchet and treat it like the bible… which was to interpret the text and find life lessons in it. Great teacher. I still use what I learned from her class.
Agreed, it’s only problematic if fans of a Marvel movie decide that public policy should be shaped by the ideas of character in that movie
this is part of what moved me from agnostic 50/50 to athiest decimal to 99decimal. Its like yeah you can rationalize and tinker and whatnot no matter what the base stuff you start with is. Granted though most of the change for me was qanon.
In what way?
well so extreme agnostics like I was, real fence sitter types, tend to have, or at least I had. This idea of there must be something to religion even if its really skewed or such. The idea is that common folks can’t possibly be believing some bs and then live their whole lives around it and pass it down generations. And its easy to think that way when the origins are all lost in time. Seeing straight out examples of it in real time. wow. it opened my eyes.