• Cowbee [he/him]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    14 months ago

    Genuine question. How would a transition to socialism work in practice?

    Generally, Leftists believe it can only happen via revolution. The general idea is to organize and build dual power, so that when an inevitable revolution arises, the working class is already organized and can replace the former state.

    Eating the billionaires and “nationalizing” publicly traded companies is the easy part. Saying “you can still possess your car” is also easy. The hard, and ultimately unpopular, part is everything else in between. Summer cottage? Family farm? What happens to pensions/retirement savings, land ownership, inheritance, small businesses, the apartment your are renting out to pay for your own rent…

    You’re working off the mindset of maintaining Capitalism and piece-by-piece Socializing it, which is not what Leftists generally propose.

    I suggest reading Critique of the Gotha Programme, if you’re genuinely interested.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      0
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Generally, Leftists believe it can only happen via revolution.

      I’m an outsider and I don’t really know much about Leftist thought. I’m curious what the general belief among Lefists is for why this revolution hasn’t happened? (In the capitalist West that is?)

      • Cowbee [he/him]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        04 months ago

        Marxists believe it is due to Imperialism, also known as Unequal Exchange. Western Capitalist countries export the vast bulk of their poverty to foreign countries with cheaper labor to make a wider proportion of profit, similar to the idea of countries functioning as Bourgeoisie and Proletarian.

        Whether you agree with Lenin’s analysis of the State and Revolutionary methods, I have yet to find a Leftist that disagrees with his arguments in Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism.

        What we are seeing is an increase in Anti-Western sentiment among the Global South, as conditions deteriorate and expropriation increases. As this revolutionary pressure builds, the weakest links pop, so to speak, weakening Western Hegemony and driving their own Proletariat closer to revolution.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          0
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          Marxists believe it is due to Imperialism

          I’m not sure exactly what you mean by “imperialism” here but regardless, what is the solution to imperialism according to Marxists?

          • Cowbee [he/him]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            14 months ago

            I elaborated on it later, it’s the concept of exporting the bulk of industrial production to foreign countries to super-exploit for super-profits.

            Imperialism defeats itself in much the same way Capitalism does, it increases in severity and exploitation until a boiling point is reached, and the country in the Global South moves towards domestic production and nationalization of their resources and products, rather than serving as an outsourced factory for wealthy Capitalists abroad.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              14 months ago

              I don’t think we’re communicating. I asked what Marxists’ solution to imperialism is. I can’t see any solution in what you’ve written here.

              • Cowbee [he/him]
                link
                fedilink
                English
                14 months ago

                What do you specifically mean? I just said Imperialism defeats itself, and people in the Global South can act against it by protecting their own production and resources.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    -14 months ago

                    They do. Supporting movements in the Global South against Imperialism by the Global North. Looking at the nature of Imperialism dialectically, it appears to be deteriorating as exploitation increases, so these movements are gaining momentum. This is what I mean when I say Imperialism defeats itself, as exploitation increases (as it must to counter the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall), it also increases pressure against itself from those it exploits.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    14 months ago

                    I’m specifically referring to Capitalism as it turns to Imperialism, also known as Unequal Exchange. A