This has been a doozy of a year. And it’s the best year so far blah blah. So how are you all coping? Does it hit anyone else like a bolt of lightning that probably I - we - won’t die of old age?

  • @JacktheladEnglish
    5•2 months ago

    This is doommongering nonsense.

    I’m no climate change denier at all, but the idea that the planet is basically going to be unliveable in 10-20 years is ludicrous.

    Even the most pessimistic of scientists don’t believe that.

    • LustyArgonianManaOPEnglish
      1•2 months ago

      AMOC collapse could happen as soon as 2025.

      https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189

      Scientists have been forced to give “optimistic” findings relating to climate change for decades because we were told not to scaremonger. We were told no one would believe us. Well, no one believed us anyway (see: you) and now our conservative estimates are turning out to be wildly too conservative. It is exponentially getting worse and we didn’t consider numerous cascading events like the methane bubbles in the arctic permafrost.

      We are literally already in the middle of a sixth extinction event relating to passing 6-8 of 9-10 planetary boundaries. It’s not doomerism, it’s literally reality. Measurably and empirically happening.

      • @[email protected]
        0•2 months ago

        Wikipedias page on AMOC is much less pessimistic:

        High-quality Earth system models indicate a collapse is unlikely and would only become probable if high levels of warming (≥4 °C (7.2 °F))[14] are sustained long after 2100.[18][19][20] Some paleoceanographic research seems to support this idea.[21][22] Some researchers fear the complex models are too stable[23] and that lower-complexity projections pointing to an earlier collapse are more accurate.[24][25] One of those projections suggests AMOC collapse could happen around 2057[26] but many scientists are skeptical of the projection.[27]

        I would very much doubt an actual collapse happens anytime soon.