• @Atin
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    121 month ago

    Current testosterone levels are not the only part of it that needs to be looked at. We as a species have sexual dimorphism. Sure it isn’t to the same effect as some other animals such as many insects, but it is enough to make it unfair for a woman to compete against somebody who went through puberty as a male. Especially in combat sports.

    • Flying SquidM
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      121 month ago

      but it is enough to make it unfair for a woman to compete against somebody who went through puberty as a male.

      We have no idea if that is true about Khelif.

      I swear. More people need to know about Swyer Syndrome.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis

      Khelif may not have even known she had a Y chromosome until that test. She may have just thought she had very “masculine” features for a woman.

      • @kemsat
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        61 month ago

        It’s irrelevant whether she knew or not. Once it is known, she needs to be moved to a different league/class.

        • Flying SquidM
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          11 month ago

          So even though she might have been born with a vagina, one that essentially works like any biologically female vagina, you think she should be forced to fight men because she has a Y chromosome?

          Are there any other times where people should be genetically tested and given something different to do if it turns out they have Swyer Syndrome?

          • @kemsat
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            61 month ago

            Yes. Also, I don’t care about her vagina. That’s not the point. The point is that having a Y chromosome likely means her body has experienced heightened testosterone her whole life, which makes her much more physically capable than a normal woman whose body would not have experienced heightened testosterone levels. That basically means it’s unsafe for her more normal competitors to get in the ring against her, same as it would be to put her up against Hafthor Björnsson.

            All Olympic athletes should be genetically tested for these things, so they can compete in the right class/heat/category.

            • Flying SquidM
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              -41 month ago

              Yes.

              Cool. Thanks for letting me know you don’t belong here. We do not allow ableist bigotry.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  1 month ago

                  I will not show you what they sent to me in PM to confirm it, but let me tell you that it involved saying that disabled people are, in fact, freaks.

                  Edit: their claim was that it was not disparaging, it was descriptive.