I’ve been trying Tumbleweed for my gaming needs and so far it seems to be working relatively well. My issue is about removed packages. When I first installed TW, I removed quite a few packages I did not want (KSudoku, LibreOffice, and a few others). It has been a little since I’ve turned on my PC but yesterday I noticed that KSudoku, LibreOffice, and really all other apps I thought I had uninstalled (sudo zypper remove <package-name>) were back on my desktop. I thought “maybe I forgot to uninstalled them in the first place” so I went through and removed all the unwanted stuff again. Since it had been awhile I updated my OS right after uninstalling those packages. After the update (sudo zypper up), I rebooted and immediately noticed that all those packages I had just removed were back (AGAIN). So WTF… am I not removing those unwanted packages “properly”? Why do they keep coming back after updates? How can I prevent this?

  • @[email protected]
    1•3 months ago

    Patterns almost made me skip opensuse, until I locked most of them so they won’t annoy me anymore. I start with only selecting some basic patterns in the installer:

    apparmor      
base          
documentation 
enhanced_base 
minimal_base  
sw_management 
x86_64_v3

    When installed, I run this in my fresh system:

    # save the currently installed patterns in a variable
installedPatterns=$(zypper se --type pattern --installed-only | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2)

# lock every existing pattern
sudo zypper addlock --type pattern $(zypper search --type pattern | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2)

# lock every package starting with "yast"
sudo zypper addlock yast*

# unlock the patterns you had installed
sudo zypper removelock --type pattern $installedPatterns

    Pro:

    • Only real dependencies get installed when adding packages
    • Nothing re-installs because it belongs to an installed pattern
    • No need for --no-recommends

    Con:

    • You have to find out the packages you need yourself

    For a minimal gnome install, use these packages (likely some more depending on you setup):

    avahi
evince
flatpak
fwupd
gedit
gnome-calculator
gnome-disk-utility
gnome-keyring
gnome-session-wayland
gnome-system-monitor
gnome-terminal
gnome-tweaks
gnome-user-share
gparted
gtk2-metatheme-arc
gtk3-metatheme-arc
gtk4-metatheme-arc
libqt5-qtwayland
loupe
MozillaFirefox
MozillaFirefox-translations-common
pipewire-pulseaudio
qt6-wayland
sane-airscan
simple-scan
tpm2.0-tools
wireplumber-audio
xdg-user-dirs
xdg-user-dirs-gtk

    Bonus tip: When removing software, use the -u flag for less bloat being left behind:

     -u, --clean-deps
       Automatically remove dependencies which become unneeded after removal of requested packages.