Western media appeared as eager as the U.S. government to undermine the elections in Venezuela and agitate for political strife, writes Alan MacLeod.

  • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston
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    Dude, there are not two sides to this, literally showing the votes is how people win elections, one can, the other could, but has not produced evidence.

    Not to rain on your parade, but some colonizers hide behind the idea that Latin America cannot have free and democratic elections because “someone” will steal the results, and this is literally the case in Venezuela but it was the government who STOLE the elections by not providing accurate timely and auditable results while declaring Maduro won.

    • @TokenBoomerOPM
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      I’m not saying the results of the election weren’t falsified. I am saying that we can’t trust western media and governments to give an accurate account of events. I’m an American. I have been lied to about Vietnam, the Soviet Union, Iraq and most recently Israel/Palestine. But you expect me to accept this narrative about Maduro as fact, when history has taught me otherwise. I will reserve judgment until I have more information.

      • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston
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        Ok, don’t trust the USA, but most of the region countries who confirmed Maduro lost the elections and only Colombia and Brazil are on the sidelines but asking for the tallies of the election to Maduro’s administration.

        Damn, even Kristina K. In Argentina asked Maduro to release the results as this was "tainting Chavez legacy ".

        For decades, the word ‘dictatorship’ was associated in Latin America with Pinochet.

        For the new generation, this is happening with Maduro and ‘being left-wing.’ This is why Boric and Lula are so active.

        Maduro is causing historical damage to the left in the region, and each day that passes since he was exposed, the damage becomes more irreversible.

        • @TokenBoomerOPM
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          So, your argument is we should support the right-wing, capitalist, genocidal Likud -affiliated Machado and Gonzalez; because Maduro is damaging the reputation of “socialism” in South America?

          • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston
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            31 month ago

            No. I’m asking you to see who got the most votes. If that’s not your measure of what democracy is, I’m not sure you’re adding anything into the conversation.

            • @TokenBoomerOPM
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              No, you want me to agree with you. And even if I did, it doesn’t matter, the election has been decided. Even if Maduro lost, he stays. Venezuelans should decide their future, not outside influence.

                • @TokenBoomerOPM
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                  11 month ago

                  Nations that chart a self-defining course, seeking to use their land, labor, natural resources, and markets as they see fit, free from the smothering embrace of the US corporate global order, frequently become a target of defamation. Their leaders often have their moral sanity called into question by US officials and US media, as has been the case at one time or another with Castro, Noriega, Ortega, Qaddafi, Aristide, Milosevic, Saddam Hussein, Hugo Chavez, and others.

                  Michael Parenti , North Korea: “Sanity” at the Brink (2009)