Voting isn’t very important in the US “democracy” because nearly all of the politicians take corporate money. It’s the same goals with different marketing. All that’s changed recently is one party just unwillingly took their mask off. To abide by my principles I don’t vote for any candidate that takes corporate money.
However, if I still lived in a purple state, I’d strongly consider sacrificing my principle for those that can’t suffer another Trump term. But, in my deep red state I’ll vote Green POTUS to put pressure Democratic platform. My POTUS vote will at least have a chance of being heard. But, probably not. There’s no way 5% of voters learn how their system works before November. It has to get worse before enough are sufficiently motivated.
You’re the only one who asked a decent question, so far. Thanks.
I assume you mean Stein? She sucks because she’s isolated from the negative consequence of her proposed means and cares little for the agency of those who’d pay the price. I’d not vote for her if she could win. The Green candidate doesn’t matter until they could win.
The value is platform. Green has been fiercely loyal to their platform for decades. Five percent of the GE would place immense pressure upon Democratic platform immediately because the social populist platform would be on every ballot in the next cycle. Then, after fours years, their choice of candidate would matter.
So essentially, you will vote for whatever will have the greatest potential good effect. Deep red state? Green, Dems won’t win so why not pressure politicians? Swing state? Blue, best not to let the fascists drag everything further to hell if you can. Deep Blue? Green, Dems will win, so pressure them. Green? Find a party even more likely to drag the overton window back to left, if they exist. The furthest left sane option is likely to win? Protest vote of nobody as now you can tell them the system itself is the problem
So essentially, you will vote for whatever will have the greatest potential good effect.
Yes.
Deep red state? Green, Dems won’t win so why not pressure politicians?
Deep Blue? Green, Dems will win, so pressure them.
These are the easier ones.
Swing state? Blue, best not to let the fascists drag everything further to hell if you can.
I’d probably vote for Kamala if I lived in a swing state. But, shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. I could respect other choices based upon the reasoning and lived experience presented with them.
Find a party even more likely to drag the overton window back to left, if they exist.
Sure, if electoral means is the way one wants to contribute to our future. But, the Greens are doing fine holding on to a framework of ballot access and I discourage party loyalty. Critically right now, and relative electoralism, there’s more meaningful alternative contributions individuals could choose.
The furthest left sane option is likely to win?
That’s what we’d like to think about ourselves. The truth is that when movements scale they suck. The best humanity can seem to do at scale is to render mediocrity the ascendant power among mankind.
Protest vote of nobody as now you can tell them the system itself is the problem
I thought about doing this. But, by time I got through the line I realized I’d waste two minutes of a hundred people’s time for nothing. I voted my races and got out of the way.
So in a democracy you’d vote for no one, as they’d all have chosen to be politicians by definition?
Voting isn’t very important in the US “democracy” because nearly all of the politicians take corporate money. It’s the same goals with different marketing. All that’s changed recently is one party just unwillingly took their mask off. To abide by my principles I don’t vote for any candidate that takes corporate money.
However, if I still lived in a purple state, I’d strongly consider sacrificing my principle for those that can’t suffer another Trump term. But, in my deep red state I’ll vote Green POTUS to put pressure Democratic platform. My POTUS vote will at least have a chance of being heard. But, probably not. There’s no way 5% of voters learn how their system works before November. It has to get worse before enough are sufficiently motivated.
Dude, you nailed it with your username choice.
Shouldn’t she also have given away all her excess money, or is that only disqualifying for Dems?
You’re the only one who asked a decent question, so far. Thanks.
I assume you mean Stein? She sucks because she’s isolated from the negative consequence of her proposed means and cares little for the agency of those who’d pay the price. I’d not vote for her if she could win. The Green candidate doesn’t matter until they could win.
The value is platform. Green has been fiercely loyal to their platform for decades. Five percent of the GE would place immense pressure upon Democratic platform immediately because the social populist platform would be on every ballot in the next cycle. Then, after fours years, their choice of candidate would matter.
So essentially, you will vote for whatever will have the greatest potential good effect. Deep red state? Green, Dems won’t win so why not pressure politicians? Swing state? Blue, best not to let the fascists drag everything further to hell if you can. Deep Blue? Green, Dems will win, so pressure them. Green? Find a party even more likely to drag the overton window back to left, if they exist. The furthest left sane option is likely to win? Protest vote of nobody as now you can tell them the system itself is the problem
I can respect that
Yes.
These are the easier ones.
I’d probably vote for Kamala if I lived in a swing state. But, shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. I could respect other choices based upon the reasoning and lived experience presented with them.
Sure, if electoral means is the way one wants to contribute to our future. But, the Greens are doing fine holding on to a framework of ballot access and I discourage party loyalty. Critically right now, and relative electoralism, there’s more meaningful alternative contributions individuals could choose.
That’s what we’d like to think about ourselves. The truth is that when movements scale they suck. The best humanity can seem to do at scale is to render mediocrity the ascendant power among mankind.
I thought about doing this. But, by time I got through the line I realized I’d waste two minutes of a hundred people’s time for nothing. I voted my races and got out of the way.
Thank you.