I’m trying to lose weight and was told that hwo I eat about 800-1000 calories a day is too low and lowers my metobolism which will prevent weight loss. I’ve looked up some meal plans and can’t really afford stuff like chicken breast, steak, or salmon every week. So that is why I’m wondering how I can eat 1500 calories a day. Are there some alternatives that I can do?

Also I’d like to ask, say I exercise and burn say 500 calories would I have to eat those calories back or no? I ask cuz I’ve been told yes and told no.

  • @SupraMario
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    124 months ago

    Store back what? That’s not how physics works. If they continue to eat only what their body needs to maintain a set weight, they’re not magically going to gain weight because their body somehow is able to violate the laws of physics.

    • @Valmond
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      24 months ago

      It’s callef the yoyo effect (that’s why you should see a nutritionist when you want to lose weight). Also recent research hints at cells becoming more efficient when there is less energy available. There is even a Kurzhesagt video about it if you are interested.

      It seems it is not so easy as calories in, calories out.

      • @SupraMario
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        -14 months ago

        No…just no. You’re arguing against literal physical laws here. Most people do not accurately count their calories and end up posting antidotal garbage that gets passed off as science.

        • @Valmond
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          24 months ago

          Dude, cells are not using up 100% of the energy you ingest, if they did you could live off a sugar cube a year. I think it might be you that doesn’t understand how the laws of physics work lol.

          • @SupraMario
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            -24 months ago

            You have just argued that they do. You cannot magically create mass from eating less. That’s literally what you’re stating.

            • @Valmond
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              14 months ago

              I didn’t state something along those lines, ofc you cannot gain 100gram eating only 50grams.

              Let me expmain:

              If your body gets 100 “energy” out of a burger, that doesn’t mean getting “200” energy out of a burger is against physics.

              • @SupraMario
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                14 months ago

                Then that’s CICO… what’s your point?

                • @Valmond
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                  14 months ago

                  Dude, either you aren’t reading or understanding what I’m typing, ot you just throws parts of your random knowledge in here withput logic.

                  If you want to discuss, great! But if you want to make random word salad, no thank you.

                  • @SupraMario
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                    14 months ago

                    You’re not saying anything. You just explained calorie intake…

    • @[email protected]
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      So first off, I don’t think you should bring the laws of physics into conversations of how human bodies store fat. I know it’s tempting - I’ve been there before - but it’s just too reductive to be useful in the conversation, and it leads to generally poor conclusions.

      While it’s true that energy cannot be ‘conjured from nothing’ - human bodies don’t quite work on a fixed energy in/out model. They can be variably efficient in how much energy is required to perform certain tasks, and secondary systems can be turned off when the need to conserve energy becomes apparent (leptin is the signaling mechanism for this).

      The main mechanisms that cause rebound weight gain after sharp dieting is a reduction in passive energy needs stemming from the change in leptin levels, along with leptins very strong effect on appetite.

      I suggest to you, and anyone still under the impression that CICO is a useful model for understanding human metabolism, to read the book The Hungry Brain. It’s hugely useful for gaining greater insight into the subject.

      • @SupraMario
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        -34 months ago

        So first off, I don’t think you should bring the laws of physics into conversations of how human bodies store fat. I know it’s tempting - I’ve been there before - but it’s just too reductive to be useful in the conversation, and it leads to generally poor conclusions.

        Are you suggesting our bodies are more efficient and break thermodynamics?

        While it’s true that energy cannot be ‘conjured from nothing’ - human bodies don’t quite work on a fixed energy in/out model. They can be variably efficient in how much energy is required to perform certain tasks, and secondary systems can be turned off when the need to conserve energy becomes apparent (leptin is the signaling mechanism for this).

        What secondary systems get turned off? You’re body is going to utilize energy anyway it can if it needs it, if it doesn’t it stores it, usually in the form of fat.

        The main mechanisms that cause rebound weight gain after sharp dieting is a reduction in passive energy needs stemming from the change in leptin levels, along with leptins very strong effect on appetite.

        No it’s from eating way more calories…this is literally junk science your parroting here. The rebound in weight is because someone decides to stuff themselves again.

        I suggest to you, and anyone still under the impression that CICO is a useful model for understanding human metabolism, to read the book The Hungry Brain. It’s hugely useful for gaining greater insight into the subject.

        That book is about the psychology of overeating.

        Hell here is a quote from his AMA:

        There are many ways to lose weight, but they all involve either eating fewer calories or burning more.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5stv4n/comment/ddhwzhf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

    • @theluckyone
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      -34 months ago

      Did you miss the “when you start eating normally again” bit?

      You can rant all you want about the laws of physics, but you might want to practice your reading comprehension.

      • @SupraMario
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        24 months ago

        Then you’re not eating normally… you’re eating more than you need.

        • @theluckyone
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          Most people don’t count calories. You said it yourself, a few posts below. Are you going to start redefining “normal” now to meet your argument?

          • @SupraMario
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            Wow…so you think my argument of CICO is bunk… because…most people don’t count calories…the fuck type of logic is this?

            • @theluckyone
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              You really need to work on that reading comprehension. Valmond stated that people will regain weight when they return to eating normally after dieting.

              You claim that’s not how physics work, then move the goal posts stating “if people only eat what they need, they won’t gain the weight back.” Well no shit Sherlock, but they’re not eating normally. They’re gaining the weight back if they go back to eating normally.

              Quit being so quick to attack folk and read the fucking post.

              • @SupraMario
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                -14 months ago

                Again, that’s not normal eating is it? If they were obese in the first place. Stop acting like it’s somehow normal for someone to consume 4000 calories a day or more.

                • @theluckyone
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                  14 months ago

                  Normal for them, not your normal. Nobody asked you for your personal definition of normal. Again, reading comprehension. Get some.

                  • @SupraMario
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                    -14 months ago

                    Lol no just no. Stop please. We’re talking about CICO and actual facts. Not bullshit made up by the HAAS gang who doesn’t want to believe that being obese is extremely not healthy for you.