Didn’t the right also move massively towards the far right nazi shit? I mean, I see how the left has moved toward beeing more progressive, but the right has shifted their positions enormously.
It is remarkable how allergic some far-right people in America are to being called far-right. Even Richard Spencer often refers to himself as a moderate. I think it originates from their inability to understand the views of other people and place their own in context (sometimes, of course, they are just acting in bad faith, but I think there is a real undercurrent of far-right folks who just can’t see their views for what they are).
I think they often do that because they want to be "normal” and of course dislike the “abnormal” (in their eyes) parts of society.
Honestly I think a lot of trumpers are that way too. They don’t need to look into his policies and background. They just know he’s the one their Republican friends and family like now. He’s the normal/conformist choice in their messed up world.
Yeah liberals didn’t go further left. Conservatives went hard right and that’s obvious from the fascist rhetoric. Just another case of projection there.
I mean it’s not totally off base though - imagine asking a Clinton era Democrat during that time period how they’d feel about a law making it a cause for civil action if someone absconded with your child to have them do transgender treatments without your knowledge or approval. I guarantee you it would have waaaaay more support from Dems then than it would from Dems now. You know, now when it’s being opposed for being transphobic.
But then we can just look at Hillary Clinton for an example of the drift in action - Hillary from that era said her politics were primarily shaped by her conservative upbringing, she strongly opposed gay marriage, and she spent some effort as first lady trying to subvert the 1st amendment with Tipper Gore because rap lyrics are naughty.
I mean you guys are clearly moving the goal post here
They really had no choice but to take away abortions, we were just being unbearably woke.
Didn’t the right also move massively towards the far right nazi shit? I mean, I see how the left has moved toward beeing more progressive, but the right has shifted their positions enormously.
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It is remarkable how allergic some far-right people in America are to being called far-right. Even Richard Spencer often refers to himself as a moderate. I think it originates from their inability to understand the views of other people and place their own in context (sometimes, of course, they are just acting in bad faith, but I think there is a real undercurrent of far-right folks who just can’t see their views for what they are).
I think they often do that because they want to be "normal” and of course dislike the “abnormal” (in their eyes) parts of society.
Honestly I think a lot of trumpers are that way too. They don’t need to look into his policies and background. They just know he’s the one their Republican friends and family like now. He’s the normal/conformist choice in their messed up world.
Maybe now, but in 2016 he definitely was not the conformist choice
It’s a new take on being self-centered.
They never explain how liberals moved further left when we all know they are pissed that liberals became more accepting of trans rights.
Yeah liberals didn’t go further left. Conservatives went hard right and that’s obvious from the fascist rhetoric. Just another case of projection there.
I mean it’s not totally off base though - imagine asking a Clinton era Democrat during that time period how they’d feel about a law making it a cause for civil action if someone absconded with your child to have them do transgender treatments without your knowledge or approval. I guarantee you it would have waaaaay more support from Dems then than it would from Dems now. You know, now when it’s being opposed for being transphobic.
But then we can just look at Hillary Clinton for an example of the drift in action - Hillary from that era said her politics were primarily shaped by her conservative upbringing, she strongly opposed gay marriage, and she spent some effort as first lady trying to subvert the 1st amendment with Tipper Gore because rap lyrics are naughty.
Yeah, the Jan 6 Insurrection happens every 4 years, it is kind of a tradition at this point.