So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

  • whenyellowstonehasitsday
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    oh we’re playing the “draw the precise, exact line” game, are we?

    whatever that line is, a year and multiple times talking specifically about israel seems like enough time to get across a sentiment more negative than “i guess israel is kind of bad, but we can’t be too hasty about these things”

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      I look forward to the day when you’ve have also written down the sum total of your opinions on one public forum, so that you can be judged on the grounds you consider fair.

      • whenyellowstonehasitsday
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        03 months ago

        i’m not asking for the sum total of your opinions

        i’m asking for any evidence an opinion which you’ve previously been happy to provide on several past occasions isn’t in piss-baby centrist territory

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          Purity tests and insults are self-defeating. How about engaging with the substance of what people in this thread are saying?

          • whenyellowstonehasitsday
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            03 months ago

            whether or not you actually care about israel’s war crimes is very obviously materially relevant to the conversation

            • @[email protected]
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              13 months ago

              And I’ve said I do. The problem is that you’re obsessed with ‘proving’ I don’t, something you cannot do. This is your problem, not mine.

              • whenyellowstonehasitsday
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                -13 months ago

                yes because people never say things that aren’t true or that they don’t really believe

                it’s not really anybody’s problem that you’re a hypocrite, but it is relevant to point out that it’s likely the case

                • @[email protected]
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                  13 months ago

                  Your (false) belief about my beliefs is not relevant to my argument or to me. It is certainly not very helpful to whatever cause you think you’re espousing to rely on purity tests and insults rather than any cogent responses to other people’s arguments.

                  • whenyellowstonehasitsday
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                    03 months ago

                    pointing out that when you say “iran and israel should face international justice”, you only mean “iran should face international justice” is relevant, yes

                    i’m not insulting you when i call you a hypocrite, i’m just accurately labeling the thing you’re doing, and if you take the word for the thing you’re doing as an insult, that’s maybe a sign you should stop doing that thing

                    if you want to take referencing a year’s worth of posts establishing your position on israel as a purity test then i could play my own fun little line drawing game