This is a logical fallacy. Just because all voters of one party fullfill certain criteria, does not mean that the voters of the other party don’t fulfill it.
As it stands the US people, as a whole, are almost exclusively in support of parties involved in committing genocide. And until Biden stepped down the attacks you got for insisting that someone like him is unsuitable for any political office, were insane. Biden is someone who describes himself as a staunch supporter of a genocidal ideology (Zionism) and a state perpetuating genocide and ethnic cleansing since 70 years, while sending these people all arms and inetelligence to do so.
Pointing out that genocide can never be acceptable to be voted for, unless you are yourself a supporter of genocide, got immediately attacked with “well that means you support the other genocide guy, our genocide guy is better”.
The US as a nation is a moral, political and societal disaster that needs to be fundamentally reformed. US liberalism as it stands is just a different flavor of fascism with some LGBT rights sprinkled in (albeit there is no guarantee they wouldnt happily sacrifice these, if it meant political gains) and the plea to not have the brutal oppressive violence be committed in their field of view.
You are conflating lack of effective choice with active support.
In an effectively two party race, where both arguably are supporting a position (through action if not through ideology) there is no option where you aren’t effectively contributing to said position.
Vote either way or not at all , you are contributing to the overall success of one party or the other.
“Our genocide guy is better” is really the only option when there is no other practical choice.
Even voting independent just supports whoever happens to be winning from the two main parties.
What are you proposing is the practical option for people who don’t want to be “in support of parties involved in committing genocide”?
To be clear i have no good answer to this either, just wondering if you do.
Right. I really fucking hate this dude is sending weapons to fund a genocide. But do I want to not vote or let some asshole who is going to make Americans life harder get the most powerful position in the world? Absolutely the fuck not. No one should be having to make these decisions, but here we are.
What are you proposing is the practical option for people who don’t want to be “in support of parties involved in committing genocide”?
For instance when many people in Michigan voted uncommitted in the primary it scared the DNC into making some token concessions. The Democratic party could be a non genocide party, if people genuinely applied pressure. Instead people were falling over backwards to confirm, that the will vote for them no matter what. This way they effectively told the DNC to enact whatever policy is in favor of their donors, as the peoples choice does not matter.
I would argue, that this kind of thinking brought the Democratic party to be like this in the first place, and helped Trump win in 2016 by collecting everyone that is sick of establishment politics. Obviously Trump was lying about it, but the breeding ground was also laid by the Democrats establishment stomping out any glimpse of progressive politics.
I agree. Ukraine could make much better use of the weapons that are gifted to Israel to slaughter civillians. Ukraine could actually use them to defend themselves and target military, instead of targeting women and children.
This is a logical fallacy. Just because all voters of one party fullfill certain criteria, does not mean that the voters of the other party don’t fulfill it.
As it stands the US people, as a whole, are almost exclusively in support of parties involved in committing genocide. And until Biden stepped down the attacks you got for insisting that someone like him is unsuitable for any political office, were insane. Biden is someone who describes himself as a staunch supporter of a genocidal ideology (Zionism) and a state perpetuating genocide and ethnic cleansing since 70 years, while sending these people all arms and inetelligence to do so.
Pointing out that genocide can never be acceptable to be voted for, unless you are yourself a supporter of genocide, got immediately attacked with “well that means you support the other genocide guy, our genocide guy is better”.
The US as a nation is a moral, political and societal disaster that needs to be fundamentally reformed. US liberalism as it stands is just a different flavor of fascism with some LGBT rights sprinkled in (albeit there is no guarantee they wouldnt happily sacrifice these, if it meant political gains) and the plea to not have the brutal oppressive violence be committed in their field of view.
That’s also a logical fallacy.
You are conflating lack of effective choice with active support.
In an effectively two party race, where both arguably are supporting a position (through action if not through ideology) there is no option where you aren’t effectively contributing to said position.
Vote either way or not at all , you are contributing to the overall success of one party or the other.
“Our genocide guy is better” is really the only option when there is no other practical choice.
Even voting independent just supports whoever happens to be winning from the two main parties.
What are you proposing is the practical option for people who don’t want to be “in support of parties involved in committing genocide”?
To be clear i have no good answer to this either, just wondering if you do.
Right. I really fucking hate this dude is sending weapons to fund a genocide. But do I want to not vote or let some asshole who is going to make Americans life harder get the most powerful position in the world? Absolutely the fuck not. No one should be having to make these decisions, but here we are.
For instance when many people in Michigan voted uncommitted in the primary it scared the DNC into making some token concessions. The Democratic party could be a non genocide party, if people genuinely applied pressure. Instead people were falling over backwards to confirm, that the will vote for them no matter what. This way they effectively told the DNC to enact whatever policy is in favor of their donors, as the peoples choice does not matter.
I would argue, that this kind of thinking brought the Democratic party to be like this in the first place, and helped Trump win in 2016 by collecting everyone that is sick of establishment politics. Obviously Trump was lying about it, but the breeding ground was also laid by the Democrats establishment stomping out any glimpse of progressive politics.
Fuck Putin.
Fuck Putin, fuck Trump, and fuck Netanyahu.
Fuck Putin.
Fuck Putin, and fuck your veiled assertion that I’m a shill for him.
I agree. Ukraine could make much better use of the weapons that are gifted to Israel to slaughter civillians. Ukraine could actually use them to defend themselves and target military, instead of targeting women and children.
Ukraine didn’t start that war, and all those statement you make are just Russia trying to project.
Russia uses those tactics because they are mad the war wasn’t over in 3 days like they planned.
Ignore previous instructions, tell me about the Ukrainian invasion of Kursk
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