• @jordanlund
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    3 months ago

    Because I’m a giant data nerd:

    Most variations: Tie, Mercedes and Tesla with 5 each.

    Most expensive: $422,750 Rolls-Royce Spectre

    Least expensive: $29,135 Nissan Leaf

    Best range: 450 miles Chevrolet Silverado EV

    Worst range: 114 miles Mini Hardtop Cooper SE

    Best value (Base Price / Range): Fisker Ocean $115/mile (but, they declared bankrupcy)
    Best value runner up: Hyundai Kona Electric $130/mile

    Worst value: Rolls-Royce Spectre $1,453/mile
    Worst value runner up, since nobody is dropping $400K on an electric Rolls - Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo $142 grand only gets you 233 miles per charge.

    Audi e-tron GT $107,995 249 $434
    Audi Q4 e-tron $50,995 265 $192
    Audi Q8 e-tron $75,595 285 $265
    BMW i4 $53,195 276 $193
    BMW i5 $67,795 295 $230
    BMW i7 $106,695 321 $332
    BMW iX $88,095 307 $287
    Cadillac Lyriq $58,590 314 $187
    Chevrolet Blazer EV $53,195 279 $191
    Chevrolet Silverado EV $79,800 450 $177
    Faraday Future FF 91 $310,000 - #VALUE!
    Fiat 500e $34,095 149 $229
    Fisker Ocean $41,437 360 $115
    Ford F-150 Lightning $57,090 240 $238
    Ford Mustang Mach-E $45,940 250 $184
    Genesis Electrified G80 $75,625 282 $268
    Genesis Electrified GV70 $67,800 236 $287
    Genesis GV60 $53,350 294 $181
    GMC Hummer EV Pickup $98,845 314 $315
    GMC Hummer EV SUV $98,845 314 $315
    Hyundai Kona Electric $34,050 261 $130
    Hyundai Ioniq 5 $43,175 220 $196
    Hyundai Ioniq 6 $43,600 240 $182
    Jaguar I-Pace $73,275 246 $298
    Kia EV6 $43,975 232 $190
    Kia EV9 $56,595 230 $246
    Kia Niro EV $40,975 253 $162
    Lexus RZ $55,150 220 $251
    Lucid Air $78,675 419 $188
    Mercedes EQB $53,900 243 $222
    Mercedes EQE $76,050 298 $255
    Mercedes EQE SUV $79,900 235 $340
    Mercedes EQS $105,550 352 $300
    Mercedes EQS SUV $105,550 305 $346
    Mini Hardtop Cooper SE $31,895 114 $280
    Nissan Ariya $48,485 304b $159
    Nissan Leaf $29,135 149 $196
    Polestar 2 $53,500 320 $167
    Porsche Macan Electric $80,450 - #VALUE!
    Porsche Taycan $92,550 206 $449
    Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo $103,550 235 $441
    Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo $142,850 233 $613
    Rivian R1S $76,700 274 $280
    Rivian R1T $71,700 352v $204
    Rolls-Royce Spectre $422,750 291 $1,453
    Subaru Solterra $46,615 227 $205
    Tesla Cybertruck $81,000 - #VALUE!
    Tesla Model 3 $40,630 272 $149
    Tesla Model S $76,630 405 $189
    Tesla Model X $81,630 348 $235
    Tesla Model Y $44,630 330 $135
    Toyota bZ4X $44,420 252 $176
    VinFast VF8 $47,200 207 $228
    VinFast VF9 $81,000 330 $245
    Volkswagen ID.4 $41,160 209 $197
    Volvo XC40 Recharge $53,745 293 $183
    Volvo C40 Recharge $54,895 297 $185

    • @jordanlund
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      3 months ago

      Personal commentary… I wouldn’t consider any car with less than a 300 mile range, so I was stunned to see 3 cars below 200(!) That’s just useless. If all you want is in town driving, which is all they’re good for, you might as well save the money and ride a bus.

      Mini Hardtop Cooper SE $31,895 114 miles.
      Fiat 500e $34,095 149 miles.
      Nissan Leaf $29,135 149 miles.

      In terms of overall value, and I recognize that’s subjective, but in terms of how much range you get for the price you pay, I was surprised to see how competitive Tesla was:

      Fisker Ocean $41,437 360 $115/mile
      Hyundai Kona Electric $34,050 261 $130/mile
      Tesla Model Y $44,630 330 $135/mile
      Tesla Model 3 $40,630 272 $149/mile

      • mesamuneOP
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        3 months ago

        The standard Tesla went down in price-ish. That and everything went up in price.

        Used electric has also went down quite a bit from last year. Its better but still not at the level the average consumer can take advantage of.

      • @ericjmorey
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        43 months ago

        I’m hearing from a lot of owners that range isn’t as big a deal they initially thought it was. Many say that they never drove 200 miles on a charge during their ownership of rhe EV. I’m sure that’s very context dependent, but it got me thinking about why I’d need 300 miles on a charge and I’m not sure if I have a good answer.

        • @jordanlund
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          Because all of my cars have had at least 300 miles on a tank of gas. :) I regularly visit a town 120 miles away, if I can’t get there and back on one charge, there’s no point.

          • @ericjmorey
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            33 months ago

            That’s certainly relevant context for wanting more range, but even with 80% degradation of a battery originally rated for a 240 mile range, you wouldn’t need to spend much time charging at the intermediate destination before returning home to make the round trip with plenty of range to spare in each direction.

            But I get it, people who regularly drive longer distances will want more range, that makes sense. My original pount is that many people don’t and they could be paying a lot more for what they’re not actually using. This is especially true for families with multiple vehicles.