• @cheese_greater
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    153 months ago

    Society really needs Kompromat on Fox News et al

    • @SGGeorwell
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      203 months ago

      To decent people, their regularly scheduled programming should be Kompromat enough.

    • @voracitude
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      183 months ago

      For compromising information to be an effective lever, the subject must have the ability to feel shame.

        • @voracitude
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          23 months ago

          Well, the “lever” would actually be fear, I suppose, and the “of what” is how you access/throw it. The threat of compromising information is public shame; if you’re using another kind of threat, then it’s not the compromising material being effective there.

          • @[email protected]
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            13 months ago

            Harm can be inflicted regardless of shame. One doesn’t need to be ashamed of a crime, for instance, for the consequences of being found out to carry weight. Hell, some of these “untouchables” probably brag about the stuff they get away with (at least in certain circles). It’s the inauthentic apology angle: “You’re not sorry for what you did, you’re sorry you got caught.”

            • @voracitude
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              3 months ago

              I think you might be getting away from the original premise a bit - compromising information is only effective if the target is afraid of it coming to light, and that fear requires shame. That’s all I’m saying; of course there are other ways of influencing people, but we’re not talking about those, we’re talking about having dirt on someone and threatening to release it to get them to do something you want.

              Edit: Mostly, I’m highlighting the fact because of how Donald Trump has normalised not being ashamed of being a piece of shit. “Damaging” stuff comes out all the time and he’s basically like “Yeah? So what?”, and somehow that works. You could also look to David Letterman though; someone tried to blackmail him with his affair, and his response was to address it on national TV (which, whatever else I think about the guy, that was a BAMF move).

    • @aodhsishaj
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      73 months ago

      Society needs compromising private information on the “news” organization that it can then leverage for blackmail, extortion, quid pro quo agreements to exert control over decisions and actions of the news organization?

      I know Citizens United made corporations akin to people, but I didn’t know you could blackmail them now.

      This is a great new development.

      You think we can use any of these articles for that then? The viewers of Fox News are unlikely to have read them so that’s close to private I guess.

      https://www.salon.com/2023/03/13/like-negotiating-with-terrorists-ex-fox-producer-worried-accurate-reporting-may-insult-audience/

      https://newrepublic.com/article/182008/erik-prince-secret-global-group-chat-off-leash

      https://politicalwire.com/2024/08/20/trump-called-his-own-supporters-basement-dwellers/