From pages 170 & 171:

[T]he multilateral treaties, conventions and agreements of an economic or technical character enumerated below … shall alone be applied as between Germany and those of the Allied and Associated Powers party thereto:

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(22) Convention of November 16 and 19, 1885, regarding the establishment of a concert pitch.

  • @Windex007
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    1127 days ago

    So not only did they fuck up by setting the stage for WWII but they ALSO fucked up that A442 is the way to go.

      • Ephera
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        1027 days ago

        The problem is pitch inflation.

        Basically, tuning slightly higher than what the composer intended, will make the performance sound more brilliant.

        • @SacredHeartAttack
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          327 days ago

          Oh, I understand. I kinda glazed over it saying concert pitch in the headline.

        • @Windex007
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          227 days ago

          444 is also insane, fyi

        • JaggedRobotPubes
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          127 days ago

          Speedrunners will it to A=500 before you know it

        • @trolololol
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          127 days ago

          What if it’s death march as the second piece and your want to tune lower, do you need to re tune your piano or do you carry your 2nd piano in your pocket?

          • Ephera
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            127 days ago

            Well, you don’t do that. You pick one frequency, in our case it was generally 442 Hz, and then you play the whole concert with that.

            Re-tuning a piano can easily take an hour. And re-tuning an orchestra is just as well a multi-minute cacophonie. The audience would rather listen to a slightly too brilliant death march than that…

      • @Windex007
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        227 days ago

        My sweet summer child

        • @SacredHeartAttack
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          227 days ago

          Oh gimme a break I misread the headline. I’m way to old to be called a child by anyone.

          • @Windex007
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            227 days ago

            Headline aside, what most people don’t realize is that the mapping of frequency to pitch is a social construct. Outside of the VERY few people with perfect pitch.

            What humans hear musically are the relative construction of sound which is why key transposition is generally unnoticed even by lifetime professional musicians.

            I didn’t mean to rib you specifically. I meant to rib in general the beautiful disconnect between science and art that exists in the domain of the humanity of music

            • @SacredHeartAttack
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              227 days ago

              Fair. I’m a 25yr musician and 20yr audio engineer. I innately understand and agree with all those points.

    • @marcos
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      27 days ago

      I was about to joke how that probably contributed to WWII, but it turns out they had already pushed it into Germany and Italy 30 years before WWI.

      But, humm… Unless it was Japan’s reason to join.