I’m not going to say it was good but I will say it wasn’t objectively a bad movie. ScarJo was the worst thing about it. They did mess up a bit by white washing it and changing the story line a bit, but the change in the story was going to happen one way or another to appeal to an American audience since this was a Hollywood film.
If we’re being honest here the depictions of most of the other characters were pretty decent (excluding the villain and the Major), and cinematography wise it was pretty decent.
It was something of mashup of storylines from the Stand Alone Complex show and the original movie, and while I was disappointed in it as a fan of the Ghost in the Shell Franchise, I can say it wasn’t like Dragonball movie levels of terrible.
the change in the story was going to happen one way or another to appeal to an American audience since this was a Hollywood film.
Right. That’s the thing that was totally unnecessary: making a Hollywood film to appeal to an American audience. It drained all the life out of the story.
Sounds like this version of The Crow was also unnecessary.
once an IP has an established superfan base, “necessity” goes out the window–it’s about money. nothing else.
take your pick of remakes/reboots/sequels/prequels/threequels/etc.–it’s a safe assumption that the people who went to see the originals are also going to see the new ones, so that money is already in the bag. so in a case like ghost in the shell, yes, they’ll 100% throw scarjo in there in order to sell it to people who wouldn’t have bought a ticket otherwise. if anything, that’s the necessity: appeal to not-fans, regardless of what the fans want
I never saw the original Crow movie, and I wonder how many people outside the cult classic scene would have seen it at all if not for this remake. Some things gain a cult following that persists and spans generations and some things don’t.
Because that’s the case I think that whole Ghost in the Shell is a very emphatic and real commentary on new technology and how we perceive our own humanity, I don’t know how many people know much about it or have even seen the original movie, and I wonder if it will have the staying power for new generations without this same kind of new media to renew the story to other audiences. It’s kind of important to recognize that not every audience is the same or finds the same topics and media consumable.
What I got from this is you don’t want to or won’t bother to speak to the elements of the movie you disliked because you either didn’t see it or you aren’t familiar with the manga, movies or shows. Alternatively there’s a possibility that you did see it but are so blinded by it’s problems that you won’t take into account anything else about it.
If you want to discuss what was wrong with it, I’m all ears. If you just want to jump on the hate bandwagon with nothing relevant to say just to be sarcastic I’m good on that and you can hold that option. I don’t need it.
I was going to say we should give it a chance. But then I read that the director also made the live-action “Ghost in the Shell.”
I’m not going to say it was good but I will say it wasn’t objectively a bad movie. ScarJo was the worst thing about it. They did mess up a bit by white washing it and changing the story line a bit, but the change in the story was going to happen one way or another to appeal to an American audience since this was a Hollywood film.
If we’re being honest here the depictions of most of the other characters were pretty decent (excluding the villain and the Major), and cinematography wise it was pretty decent.
It was something of mashup of storylines from the Stand Alone Complex show and the original movie, and while I was disappointed in it as a fan of the Ghost in the Shell Franchise, I can say it wasn’t like Dragonball movie levels of terrible.
Right. That’s the thing that was totally unnecessary: making a Hollywood film to appeal to an American audience. It drained all the life out of the story.
Sounds like this version of The Crow was also unnecessary.
once an IP has an established superfan base, “necessity” goes out the window–it’s about money. nothing else.
take your pick of remakes/reboots/sequels/prequels/threequels/etc.–it’s a safe assumption that the people who went to see the originals are also going to see the new ones, so that money is already in the bag. so in a case like ghost in the shell, yes, they’ll 100% throw scarjo in there in order to sell it to people who wouldn’t have bought a ticket otherwise. if anything, that’s the necessity: appeal to not-fans, regardless of what the fans want
I never saw the original Crow movie, and I wonder how many people outside the cult classic scene would have seen it at all if not for this remake. Some things gain a cult following that persists and spans generations and some things don’t.
Because that’s the case I think that whole Ghost in the Shell is a very emphatic and real commentary on new technology and how we perceive our own humanity, I don’t know how many people know much about it or have even seen the original movie, and I wonder if it will have the staying power for new generations without this same kind of new media to renew the story to other audiences. It’s kind of important to recognize that not every audience is the same or finds the same topics and media consumable.
So I think you make a pretty good point here.
What I got from this is you don’t want to or won’t bother to speak to the elements of the movie you disliked because you either didn’t see it or you aren’t familiar with the manga, movies or shows. Alternatively there’s a possibility that you did see it but are so blinded by it’s problems that you won’t take into account anything else about it.
If you want to discuss what was wrong with it, I’m all ears. If you just want to jump on the hate bandwagon with nothing relevant to say just to be sarcastic I’m good on that and you can hold that option. I don’t need it.
Fair enough. Didn’t mean to bring you down, fam. No hard feelings on my part.