• @traveler01
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    • алсааас [she/they]OP
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      141 year ago

      Socialism is defined as the working people either directly owning or democratically controlling the economy. I don’t see how that is the case in any “socialist” country at the moment (speaking of the nordic ones, Portugal, China etc)

        • алсааас [she/they]OP
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          101 year ago

          sorry to disillusion you but your system is capitalism with a nice coat of paint over it. It’s still based on exploitation, imperialism, neo-colonialism and oil/fossil fuel money

      • @ZodiacSF1969
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        -71 year ago

        Lmao you are literally the ‘but that’s not real socialism/communism’ meme right now 🤣

        • алсааас [she/they]OP
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          Imma bring up an example to maybe explain it easier. North Korea calls itself the “Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea”. In their official understanding/rhetoric they have a democracy in which the administration acts in the interest of the people instead of a few bureaucratic elites. In reality it’s the other way around. Now, if someone said “Look at what democracy does to a country!!11!”, would you not object?

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      They usually do this because other things depend on it, so it cannot collapse or they percieve it as such/ that that is important/ that for example workers can’t go somewhere else. They don’t see how the benefits don’t outweigh the risk.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          I think there are many things governments base their decisions on that are just outright false.

    • @ZodiacSF1969
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      -81 year ago

      This comment will not go down well here, this site leans left pretty heavily and it’s easy to upset them lol

      • @[email protected]
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        61 year ago

        Where will you go when you realize the majority of people don’t subscribe to the right wing scam?

      • very smart Idiot
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        -51 year ago

        While this is true, most left leaning people still know how economy works and why it should keep on working.

        Germany is considered heavily left leaning nowadays. Especially in comparison to countries like the US. But that doesn’t mean that Germans are suddenly borderline communist.

        • lemmy
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          161 year ago

          lol, who in their right mind considers germany as left leaning?

            • @[email protected]
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              31 year ago

              Probably, but considering Germany as a left-leaning country is still rich.

              It sounds more like your perception of Germany is a little displaced from reality.

              • very smart Idiot
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                -11 year ago

                It for sure is not. Germany is a social democracy. One of the most advanced in Europe.

                Therefore Germany is heavily left leaning.

                I don’t know what you would call the left at this point… Communism?

                • @[email protected]
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                  61 year ago

                  But the population and therefore our government which get voted from them is more conservative. And that’s not even calculating the swing to the right. And the established far right networks our executive like police, military and intelligent services doesn’t give a picture of a left leaning country. Germany had a good foundation, I give you that, but we have now decades of conservative governments who slowly undermined it.

                  So maybe left leaning if you compare it to an absolute monarchy, but if you differentiate and look closer, Germany is far from an left leaning country.

                  • very smart Idiot
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                    -11 year ago

                    But the population and therefore our government which get voted from them is more conservative. And that’s not even calculating the swing to the right.

                    Not quite sure, are we talking about Germany now? Because SPD and Grüne is definitely not konservative. And the AfD, considering the sei g to the right, is actually more left leaning than the CDU and FDP considering the economical standpoints.

                    And the established far right networks our executive like police, military and intelligent services doesn’t give a picture of a left leaning country.

                    If we are still talking about Germany, Germany has reduced the Police and the Military over the last decades further and further. We currently have real issues now. No wonder that overworking policemen are leaning further to the right, to parties that would eventually enlarge the policeforce.

                    Germany had a good foundation, I give you that, but we have now decades of conservative governments who slowly undermined it.

                    We should not forget that the SPD and CDU were once both considered the conservative parties. And most of the foundations you mention were build under their lead. It’s been a recent development that CDU and SPD became rather left leaning in their appearance, but simultaneously messing up the systems.

                    So maybe left leaning if you compare it to an absolute monarchy, but if you differentiate and look closer, Germany is far from an left leaning country.

                    And here we drastically disagree. Germany is a heavily left leaning European country. And by European standard this also means globally.

                • @[email protected]
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                  61 year ago

                  In the name sure. In the party even are some left leaning politicians. But the body of it and our Bundeskanzler, are more centrist than left. The upholding of the status quo is more important for them than improving social situations and tackling leftist points like wealth inequality, so I personally wouldn’t call them left leaning