Why have an animal to.torture it? Get a parrot of a fish then. Don’t adopt an animal, that can’t understand, and push stupid human values to it. A person that says wants to “protect” animal should respect nature. but you know… vegans are jot the best at logical thinking
They won’t enjoy it. We’ll do a fucking experiment, link whatever product you’re talking about. I have three cats, I’ll put a cockroach in a bowl, your soggy biscuit in another, and a piece of chicken in the third. Which will they go for?
Tldr: animals will die, either by eating them or by preventing them to breed (which is even sadder). The entire vegan ideology makes no sense and it works only in a world with infinite resources — certain not ours
Yes, because vegan is outright stupid. There is a balance to everything and animals (humans included) eating other animals/plants is perfectly normal and shouldn’t be frown upon.
What do you think would happen if animals didn’t eat other animals? Or plants? Someone would have to kill them or make them not reproduce anyway — which is exactly what happens with cats — to compensate overpopulation which is a problem (one we experience right now, why do you think most of the people in this world live in shitty conditions? Or are poor as fuck?) humanity is struggling with and other species like cats. Vegans is just bored people thinking they know better and try to make their own little world without thinking it’s not sustainable and it doesn’t even make sense.
Unnecessary edit: I don’t even eat that much meat and I wouldn’t really care if I stopped (I did for a while cause it was too expensive and not worth it) and the conditions animals are breed are completely fucked up, sad and unnatural (think of dog, cat, chicken, cow breeding) but that doesn’t mean that eating meat is wrong and should be replaced by some lab shit (for the aforementioned balance thing reason).
If you lived on an island where there was plentiful nutritious food that did not cause suffering, where there were health benefits to eating the vegetable options and where there were vegetable options that tasted similar to meat, would you still continue to eat meat?
if the animal has nutritious food and enjoys the food then the RSPCA would be fine.
the RSPCA published the following information:
it is possible to develop a plant-based diet for cats, these need to be carefully formulated to meet the unique nutritional requirements of the cat and be appropriately supplemented with essential nutrients
Why have an animal to.torture it? Get a parrot of a fish then. Don’t adopt an animal, that can’t understand, and push stupid human values to it. A person that says wants to “protect” animal should respect nature. but you know… vegans are jot the best at logical thinking
if the animal enjoys the food and it has all the nutrition the animal needs then how is it torture?.
Do you also rant at people who keep their cats inside against their will?
You keep making this logical jump that a cat would enjoy eating shitty food with supplements. They would not. A cat would enjoy some chicken.
but what if they did enjoy eating the biscuits? Would you knock the food out of their mouths?
“But let’s just assume I’m right…”
No. Don’t get a cat.
so if the cats enjoy the food and the food is nutritious you would be against it?
They won’t enjoy it. We’ll do a fucking experiment, link whatever product you’re talking about. I have three cats, I’ll put a cockroach in a bowl, your soggy biscuit in another, and a piece of chicken in the third. Which will they go for?
But if the vegan cat biscuits are enjoyed by a cat and are nutritious, then would you have any issues with it?
Tldr: animals will die, either by eating them or by preventing them to breed (which is even sadder). The entire vegan ideology makes no sense and it works only in a world with infinite resources — certain not ours
Yes, because vegan is outright stupid. There is a balance to everything and animals (humans included) eating other animals/plants is perfectly normal and shouldn’t be frown upon.
What do you think would happen if animals didn’t eat other animals? Or plants? Someone would have to kill them or make them not reproduce anyway — which is exactly what happens with cats — to compensate overpopulation which is a problem (one we experience right now, why do you think most of the people in this world live in shitty conditions? Or are poor as fuck?) humanity is struggling with and other species like cats. Vegans is just bored people thinking they know better and try to make their own little world without thinking it’s not sustainable and it doesn’t even make sense.
Unnecessary edit: I don’t even eat that much meat and I wouldn’t really care if I stopped (I did for a while cause it was too expensive and not worth it) and the conditions animals are breed are completely fucked up, sad and unnatural (think of dog, cat, chicken, cow breeding) but that doesn’t mean that eating meat is wrong and should be replaced by some lab shit (for the aforementioned balance thing reason).
If you lived on an island where there was plentiful nutritious food that did not cause suffering, where there were health benefits to eating the vegetable options and where there were vegetable options that tasted similar to meat, would you still continue to eat meat?
then let’s say I’m on this island. Would I prevent the animals from eating other animals?
Stop with the gish-gallop already
It’s pretty bloody obvious what you’re doing
Gish gallop is a series of untrue statements said in rapid fire that the other person does not have time to refute.
you don’t understand the word.
I hope the RSPCA, ASPCA, Whatever your countries local equivalent is looks into you with that sort of mindset
if the animal has nutritious food and enjoys the food then the RSPCA would be fine.
the RSPCA published the following information:
it is possible to develop a plant-based diet for cats, these need to be carefully formulated to meet the unique nutritional requirements of the cat and be appropriately supplemented with essential nutrients
Gish gallop
so the RSPCA would have zero issue with a cat on a vegan diet as long as the cat had adequate nutrition and was eating palatable food.
any argument with that?