No, only whores are whores. Whoring is a storied profession, and it doesn’t do it justice to call anyone a whore.
Personally, I think men and women, or people of any gender, are better off not whoring to sustain themselves. If they do it for a hobby, I think that’s better. I hate the idea of someone having to do something most people consider intimate or a privilege to just get some food or a nice vacation. That’s why I also find OnlyFans kinda sad, but I understand that not everyone is a practically a monk like me and they have a different pov about sex or intimacy
Your mom was a whore if she got married. Every woman in your family line who has been married is a whore. It’s just socially acceptable to be a whore, to have sex for money, as long as it’s in a marriage contract. The sole purpose of a marriage contract is to make the bride a whore.
That’s really extending the logic for what the term “whore” means.
Whores don’t have expectation of family life or a stable long term relationship where partners care for each other. Housewives or tradwives do (my mom is a housewife, never worked a day in her life).
Note that I am not judging sex workers. I wish that sex workers who don’t want to be sex workers, don’t have to be. If someone is a sex worker and likes what they do, I think it’s like any other job. But I wouldn’t recommend to a friend that they should do it because it’s likely emotionally exhausting, and makes intimacy into a commodity. The former is bad for the sex worker, the latter is bad for a community.
Plenty of full service sex workers do get married and have families. There are in fact generations of families of sex workers.
Good for them. My only question is if given the option of another career with similar pay and benefits, would sex workers still do it? If no, then there’s a problem society needs to address, like by introducing UBI. If yes, then that’s okay.
Edit: to address the original point, though. Sex workers don’t have an expectation of family life with their clients (who pay them), so that’s not exactly the same situation as that of a housewife.
To address the work comment, I was referring to jobs where you’re paid income or benefits from a non-related person as work. But yes, emotional and family care is unpaid work.
Yes, sex workers already have an option of other work. No other work gives this pay or these benefits - name one. Name one job. And I’ll tell you why sex workers won’t choose it over their current profession. As it is, nothing really competes.
The societal issue is that we have a class of people who own the labor of other people. Until workers own their own means of production, all work will be exploiting workers.
The reason I won’t get married as a sex worker is because marriage is sex slavery in my eyes. The man not only owns the wife, he also owns their children. Your mom worked for no pay, in a work contract that lasts a lifetime, and had the children of her captor. That this has been common doesn’t make it right or idyllic. It’s quite horrifying to me along with all the tradwife/slave stuff.
That slavery and ownership aspect is what is different between free and clear sex work and sexual slavery of wives. It’s not family - sex workers have families and relationships with their clients as we’ve already established. It’s that the husband doesn’t own the family and is disempowered. In the patriarchy, this is bad and so “whores” are bad. Wives are good because they allow for much more power and control over them. This is also why women commonly experience a huge upswing in abuse after commitments, eg after she moves in with a man, after she gets married, after she has a baby, etc.
Oh I’m pretty sure I irritated a lil guy a few days ago and he regularly goes through my profile and downvotes all my comments. Kinda sad of him, really.
I suppose we’re all whores in some sense.
No, only whores are whores. Whoring is a storied profession, and it doesn’t do it justice to call anyone a whore.
Personally, I think men and women, or people of any gender, are better off not whoring to sustain themselves. If they do it for a hobby, I think that’s better. I hate the idea of someone having to do something most people consider intimate or a privilege to just get some food or a nice vacation. That’s why I also find OnlyFans kinda sad, but I understand that not everyone is a practically a monk like me and they have a different pov about sex or intimacy
Your mom was a whore if she got married. Every woman in your family line who has been married is a whore. It’s just socially acceptable to be a whore, to have sex for money, as long as it’s in a marriage contract. The sole purpose of a marriage contract is to make the bride a whore.
That’s really extending the logic for what the term “whore” means.
Whores don’t have expectation of family life or a stable long term relationship where partners care for each other. Housewives or tradwives do (my mom is a housewife, never worked a day in her life).
Note that I am not judging sex workers. I wish that sex workers who don’t want to be sex workers, don’t have to be. If someone is a sex worker and likes what they do, I think it’s like any other job. But I wouldn’t recommend to a friend that they should do it because it’s likely emotionally exhausting, and makes intimacy into a commodity. The former is bad for the sex worker, the latter is bad for a community.
That’s just my pov, maybe I am wrong 🤷♀️
Plenty of full service sex workers do get married and have families. There are in fact generations of families of sex workers.
Your mom worked every day of her life, you mean, since she was a housewife.
Good for them. My only question is if given the option of another career with similar pay and benefits, would sex workers still do it? If no, then there’s a problem society needs to address, like by introducing UBI. If yes, then that’s okay.
Edit: to address the original point, though. Sex workers don’t have an expectation of family life with their clients (who pay them), so that’s not exactly the same situation as that of a housewife.
To address the work comment, I was referring to jobs where you’re paid income or benefits from a non-related person as work. But yes, emotional and family care is unpaid work.
Yes, sex workers already have an option of other work. No other work gives this pay or these benefits - name one. Name one job. And I’ll tell you why sex workers won’t choose it over their current profession. As it is, nothing really competes.
The societal issue is that we have a class of people who own the labor of other people. Until workers own their own means of production, all work will be exploiting workers.
The reason I won’t get married as a sex worker is because marriage is sex slavery in my eyes. The man not only owns the wife, he also owns their children. Your mom worked for no pay, in a work contract that lasts a lifetime, and had the children of her captor. That this has been common doesn’t make it right or idyllic. It’s quite horrifying to me along with all the tradwife/slave stuff.
That slavery and ownership aspect is what is different between free and clear sex work and sexual slavery of wives. It’s not family - sex workers have families and relationships with their clients as we’ve already established. It’s that the husband doesn’t own the family and is disempowered. In the patriarchy, this is bad and so “whores” are bad. Wives are good because they allow for much more power and control over them. This is also why women commonly experience a huge upswing in abuse after commitments, eg after she moves in with a man, after she gets married, after she has a baby, etc.
FWIW, I am not the one downvoting you. I hate places and people that downvote a conversation, it’s so unnecessary.
Thanks for sharing your pov, and I get where you’re coming from. I am glad you’re here to contribute and share your side of things.
Oh I’m pretty sure I irritated a lil guy a few days ago and he regularly goes through my profile and downvotes all my comments. Kinda sad of him, really.
Thanks for sharing your side as well.