• @eltrain123
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    Well… ya know… std’s and what not…

    If it’s a numbers game, how many loads can you take before being exposed to something with life-long consequences, statistically speaking?

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      STDs, protection against being raped, kidnapped/trafficked, or murdered, the travel time and cleanup between clients unless you’re in-house, and in that case the cost of maintaining a safe and comfortable space, and finally the side effort you have to work on to maintain a body / appearance that people actually want to fuck. I’m all for sex work being legal, but it should be regulated specifically to protect workers.

      • LustyArgonian
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        33 months ago

        How would regulation fix those things? Versus decriminalization?

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          The same way OSHA prevents workers from being expendable labor because of unsafe workplaces. I don’t want decriminalization. I want legalization. And I know OSHA doesn’t exactly fit the bill, but regulating sex work already exists in Nevada, and it’s much better for said workers.

          • LustyArgonian
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            Well, we could just make a law requiring that sex workers own their own means of production and anyone who owns a sex worker’s means of production is a human trafficker. But then the other workers in other industries might catch on that they are also being trafficked. Please note that this is what decriminalization does, as it is still illegal to be a pimp - so legalization actually allows for greater exploitation of sex workers by capitalists and banks.

            How often a worker should be tested is between her and a doctor and perhaps a public health official. It should not be regulated by lawmakers who don’t understand medicine anyway. There are already laws in place about communicating STI status between adults.

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              I disagree that it should be purely between a sex worker and their doctor. I won’t get into the ownership of workers means of production, as I feel that’s a meta conversation that could be applied to any worker, and in any workers case, I would still want something like OSHA to exist.

              I appreciate your perspective, and I’m sure you have far more insight than I do, but as a metaphor, in the sense that if I hire a contractor to build a house, and they and another private party decide the quality and situation of the construction, with no externally required guidelines to be followed except that the contractor can continue building houses, that wouldn’t make me feel safe about my specific house.

              In any case, all the best and thanks for the thoughtful response

              • LustyArgonian
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                Yes, it should. Just like how we’ve found abortion has a million medical reasons to be performed and the conversation is best done between a woman and her doctor, STI status is the same, except maybe also add in a public health official from the CDC if there are concerns or questions. That health official can contact trace if the CDC deems it necessary. We probably only need to contact trace for HIV, though, which afaik is what is already done. Maybe syphilis too since that can go in your brain.

                There are a few reasons for this. One of them is that empowered/independent sex workers are substantially less likely to have STIs, so it’s a waste of resources to test them all the time. We should all be getting tested regularly and we do if we have access to Healthcare and aren’t being trafficked (studies show this), but that conversation should be directed by an actual health professional who has seen that actual specific patient because it’s so complicated.

                The highest group for STI risk are abused people. Really. You can actually just think of STIs as a form of biological abuse and you’d be right. Sex workers who are being trafficked are the ones who are extremely high in STIs because they can’t get to doctors, aren’t allowed to refuse clients, and are forced to engage in sex without condoms. They are victims and separate from the field of independent workers in terms of risk profile.

                Other notable groups with high STI prevalence include: children, especially adults under age 25. The disabled, particularly nonspeaking disabled. And the elderly, particularly memory affected elderly. Why? Because they are fucking victims of abuse. The most likely person to have an STI is someone overlapping these groups - a disabled teenage girl, for instance, who can’t talk.

                I can’t even go with your metaphor about contracting houses due to how far off base it is with the reality of sex work and STIs. STI tests are not done for the client’s safety, they are done for the worker’s safety.