• Dessalines
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      92 months ago

      Colonialism and indigenous eviction masquerading as “socialist”.

      • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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        -42 months ago

        I would argue that the Colonialism and indigenous eviction evils can be separated from the socialist successes.

          • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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            -22 months ago

            Colonialism certainly helped establish some settlements, but is colonialism essential for the survival of the kibbutz system? I don’t think so.

            For example, if a kibbutz was initiated (legally and paid for) in Australia, then colonialism would not be an ingredient.

                • Cowbee [he/him]
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                  22 months ago

                  The example was colonialist. It has only existed in a colonialist form. You were tasked with providing an example of Socialism working, which by extension implies you believe colonialism to be compatible with Socialism. This is nonsense.

                  • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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                    -42 months ago

                    It has only existed in a colonialist form.

                    There are examples of kibbutzs outside of Israel. Colonialism is not (necessarily) part of the ideology.

      • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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        -32 months ago

        Yes, some kibbutz founders were part of Zionist settlement land grabs. And there is no way I’m going to defend current Israeli actions.

        But this doesn’t really relate to the kibbutz being a good example of communism.