Absolutely agreed. I’ve seen plenty of videos by Louis Rossmann about it, so I absolutely know it’s an issue. However, he made the claim that it still isn’t fixed in later models, so I’m going on the assumption that mine is affected, I just haven’t triggered it (probably because we don’t open and close the laptop lid very often).
“ecosystem”
I thought the “ecosystem” was the software suite, not hardware. So things like iMessage and iCloud working seamlessly between devices.
Apple fans are even questioning this decision.
Honestly, being a “fan” of any company is stupid. I can’t really think of a single company that I’d protect bad decisions from, except maybe Valve because they have such a long track-record of not sucking, and they’re pretty much the only company that directly makes my life better on my Linux systems.
Absolutely agreed. I’ve seen plenty of videos by Louis Rossmann about it, so I absolutely know it’s an issue. However, he made the claim that it still isn’t fixed in later models, so I’m going on the assumption that mine is affected, I just haven’t triggered it (probably because we don’t open and close the laptop lid very often).
yeah, the specific mode of failure would be repeated opening and closing, and especially opening all the way. It’s still really scummy that they never did an official repair recall for it, or at least a free repair service for that specific issue, since it cant be super common.
I thought the “ecosystem” was the software suite, not hardware. So things like iMessage and iCloud working seamlessly between devices.
yeah, and apple moved to use entirely USB C on their macbooks for a similar reason, i don’t see why that shouldnt be an ecosystem problem considering the one place where it’s not USB C is the phone, which is also in the ecosystem. It’s one cable, except for the legacy lightning connector that your phone in the equivalent ecosystem also has to use. Which means you have to carry at least two cables, maybe three, because your iphones charging cable is probably USB A not C. Though they recently moved most of their charging over to USB C so that’s alleviated at least/
Honestly, being a “fan” of any company is stupid. I can’t really think of a single company that I’d protect bad decisions from, except maybe Valve because they have such a long track-record of not sucking, and they’re pretty much the only company that directly makes my life better on my Linux systems.
yeah, i certainly wouldn’t either. I bought intel 12th gen after buying AMD for my workstation (cheap and high IPC/clock chip) though i’m not buying intel 13th or 14th gen lmao.
As for valve, im not really sure they’ve ever had a bad decision, more like bad maintenance of something like TF2. Outside of that maybe, but they’re very receptive to the market on account of gaben being the way he is.
My understanding is that they committed to 10 years of support for the lightning connector, which was released before USB-C became a thing. I can’t find a source for that, but it lines up pretty well with the timing of things (introduced in 2012, replaced around 2023), and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a deal like that.
that’s a possibility, but i feel like that’s a really shitty excuse especially for newly manufactured phones, apple only just recently stopped shipping charging blocks with their phones, i believe they still ship cables though.
It’s like committing to funding 300 billion dollars of coal power plants, only to have natural gas become a big deal in 5 years and then pivoting to natural gas, i feel like it’s just, normal.
There’s more to it than just the cables, there’s all of the companies that integrate with their phones. There are a ton of accessories for iPhone, and they probably have contractual obligations to maintain compatibility for some amount of time.
and they all pay for the licensed lightning cable, they would love for nothing more than using USB C instead, apple doesn’t even have to stop producing lightning cables. They just have to stop using them on phones.
This is like the equivalent of not being able to manufacture a car because you slightly changed the design of how the transmission mounts to fix the problem where the transmission fucking grenades itself all because “well maintenance is hard”
Absolutely agreed. I’ve seen plenty of videos by Louis Rossmann about it, so I absolutely know it’s an issue. However, he made the claim that it still isn’t fixed in later models, so I’m going on the assumption that mine is affected, I just haven’t triggered it (probably because we don’t open and close the laptop lid very often).
I thought the “ecosystem” was the software suite, not hardware. So things like iMessage and iCloud working seamlessly between devices.
Honestly, being a “fan” of any company is stupid. I can’t really think of a single company that I’d protect bad decisions from, except maybe Valve because they have such a long track-record of not sucking, and they’re pretty much the only company that directly makes my life better on my Linux systems.
yeah, the specific mode of failure would be repeated opening and closing, and especially opening all the way. It’s still really scummy that they never did an official repair recall for it, or at least a free repair service for that specific issue, since it cant be super common.
yeah, and apple moved to use entirely USB C on their macbooks for a similar reason, i don’t see why that shouldnt be an ecosystem problem considering the one place where it’s not USB C is the phone, which is also in the ecosystem. It’s one cable, except for the legacy lightning connector that your phone in the equivalent ecosystem also has to use. Which means you have to carry at least two cables, maybe three, because your iphones charging cable is probably USB A not C. Though they recently moved most of their charging over to USB C so that’s alleviated at least/
yeah, i certainly wouldn’t either. I bought intel 12th gen after buying AMD for my workstation (cheap and high IPC/clock chip) though i’m not buying intel 13th or 14th gen lmao.
As for valve, im not really sure they’ve ever had a bad decision, more like bad maintenance of something like TF2. Outside of that maybe, but they’re very receptive to the market on account of gaben being the way he is.
My understanding is that they committed to 10 years of support for the lightning connector, which was released before USB-C became a thing. I can’t find a source for that, but it lines up pretty well with the timing of things (introduced in 2012, replaced around 2023), and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a deal like that.
that’s a possibility, but i feel like that’s a really shitty excuse especially for newly manufactured phones, apple only just recently stopped shipping charging blocks with their phones, i believe they still ship cables though.
It’s like committing to funding 300 billion dollars of coal power plants, only to have natural gas become a big deal in 5 years and then pivoting to natural gas, i feel like it’s just, normal.
There’s more to it than just the cables, there’s all of the companies that integrate with their phones. There are a ton of accessories for iPhone, and they probably have contractual obligations to maintain compatibility for some amount of time.
and they all pay for the licensed lightning cable, they would love for nothing more than using USB C instead, apple doesn’t even have to stop producing lightning cables. They just have to stop using them on phones.
This is like the equivalent of not being able to manufacture a car because you slightly changed the design of how the transmission mounts to fix the problem where the transmission fucking grenades itself all because “well maintenance is hard”