• Cowbee [he/him]
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    23 months ago

    I think there’s a discrepancy here, I’m a Communist, not a Liberal. There’s nobody in the DNC nor GOP that represents me, not even the squad. Even then, the Squad is regularly shut down by the Party at large, and forced to toe the Party Line.

    There’s discrepancy within the DNC, but there’s also an overarching line to hold, and Capitalist donors to appease.

    • @Carrolade
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      -13 months ago

      I agree, you have virtually no representation in our federal govt, your numbers are just too small. The closest would be Bernie, and he’s not even a member of the dem party. He still supports capitalism too, just with stronger regulation and a robust social safety net, paid for by taxes.

      You’re to the left of mainstream American progressives, basically. Which should make sense when Marx argued for revolution, not reform.

      • Cowbee [he/him]
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        13 months ago

        Yes, so I am skeptical when I hear you say Harris is “progressive” when she is running on even harsher border control and “the most lethal military in the world.”

        • @Carrolade
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          -23 months ago

          Like I said, I do not believe in listening to rhetoric. Words are cheap. Actions are meaningful. I don’t care what she runs on, she could run on launching all our nukes at Florida and I still would not listen very much.

          • Cowbee [he/him]
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            13 months ago

            I agree, but based on her voting record she is a tepid liberal, and based on her words she will continue to be so.

            • @Carrolade
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              -23 months ago

              She is certainly a liberal, no question about it. Most progressives are, though.

              Again, Marx did not argue for reforming the government, that’s not seizing the means of production. Progressives are reformist, not revolutionary though. Progressives will usually fight against the use of violence to change the system.

              You can’t just claim all of progressivism for communism just because you’re a communist and see it as progress, that’s not fair for the rest of us that want change, but not communism.

              • Cowbee [he/him]
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                13 months ago

                She is certainly a liberal, no question about it. Most progressives are, though.

                Is “progressive” just a vibe?

                Again, Marx did not argue for reforming the government, that’s not seizing the means of production.

                I already told you I’m a Communist, I’d rather you not talk down to me and explain my position for me.

                Progressives are reformist, not revolutionary though. Progressives will usually fight against the use of violence to change the system.

                Kamala isn’t changing the system, nor does she seem to want to. So, is she no longer a progressive in your eyes?

                You can’t just claim all of progressivism for communism just because you’re a communist and see it as progress, that’s not fair for the rest of us that want change, but not communism.

                Good thing I didn’t claim that. She isn’t even trying to reform, she’s maintaining the current system with minor tweaks.

                • @Carrolade
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                  -23 months ago

                  I already said, progressives seek to reform the system. That means joining it, and fixing it steadily from within. You can see the differences between this and a communist revolution, yes? It is not a complete change to an entirely different system, it is evolution of the system.

                  You may see these tweaks as too minor, and that’s fine. But that just means you are not a progressive. Which makes complete sense since you’ve said you’re a communist. If all progressives were communists, we wouldn’t need two separate words, right? But we have two words, for the two different things.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
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                    23 months ago

                    I already said, progressives seek to reform the system. That means joining it, and fixing it steadily from within. You can see the differences between this and a communist revolution, yes? It is not a complete change to an entirely different system, it is evolution of the system.

                    She’s not evolving the system, this isn’t reform, this is continued liberalism.