• @ChonkyOwlbear
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    Many immigrants come with children.

    I wasn’t complaining about the inclusion of those children. I was complaining of the inclusion of children of immigrants born in the US which constitutionally makes them American citizens.

    Law enforcement costs money and pulled away from normal operation.

    Which is a choice we make. It is not inherent to immigration. For half the existence of this country we spent zero on regulating immigration.

    if migrants didn’t generate net revenues positively in their country of origin, what makes you think they generate a net positive in the new host country?

    Failure of productivity results from a corrupt and inefficient government in places like Venezuela. It has little to do with the capability of people. Go to any construction site or kitchen in the US and you will find them staffed with mostly immigrants. Labor created value and anyone can do labor if managed effectively.

    Furthermore, why do municipalities like NYC have to cut services? Why do they have to evict migrants from shelters?

    Because they don’t have sufficient funds to do so which could easily be fixed if xenophobes in government didn’t block taking action.

    Using their logic, we should take in all the people in poverty in the world, and boost the GDP to astronomical levels by funding all of it.

    Correct. Labor is the most valuable natural resource on Earth.

    • AmoxtliOP
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      18 days ago

      Correct. Labor is the most valuable natural resource on Earth.

      I said spending is an aggregate measure of GDP. You can’t even debate honestly and imply you are honest by saying other people are dishonest. It is best you are covered with a veil and blocked. Labor itself isn’t value. Value is the end product. Every country has labor. The productivity of that labor is not equal. This is what leftist don’t understand about the price of labor; it is not due to the labor itself, but the value that comes out the other end. This is why labor is unequal… and why your statement is nonsensical. No point in debating somebody in economics when they don’t know how an economy works. I am not going to waste my time, when blocking is much more efficient.