I’m not talking about the consumption of animals here, to be clear. What I’m talking about is spending days and a bunch of money planning to kill something, doing the killing, and skinning/eviscerating what was killed, and often displaying the stuffed corpse. Hunters and fishers refuse to admit they’re obsessed with taking pleasure in killing something.
Miss me with the “tradition” stuff, it’s just peer pressure from the dead and a fallacious argument. Don’t tell me it’s to eat, like I said, I’m not talking about the consumption here, so please prove to me you are literate by not bringing up that point. And don’t tell me you’re respectful to the animals you kill; I don’t believe the planning, stalking, and killing is a good way to show respect.
I get that we have some species that need to be culled for the sake of the greater good /circle of life / balance of nature, etc., but I have no desire to do that work myself.
Hunting is hobby-murder regardless of the justification you put behind it.
Not all killing is murder — and to pretend the killing of any animal is takes away from actual homicide.
“I realise this is a necessary part for society to function the way it does, but I think every single person who does it is doing it for the sheer pleasure of killing”
Using that same logic, all plumbers have a scat-fetish?
It’s beyond amazing to me how disconnected some people are from nature. Death is seen as something horrible, instead of something that literally every single organism will one day face.
Yes there are really weird dudes in hunting groups, but there are also completely normal, non-psychopathic non-murderers, and if you pretend there isn’t, then I don’t think you’re ready to have an adult conversation about the subject.
Until the animals are able to speak up for themselves and tell us that they want to die, killing is murder regardless of the mental gymnastics you perform around it.
If I happened to crash a car into your car and you die, I won’t get convicted for murder.
If I push you in anger and you happen to crack your head on the pavement badly enough and die — I might get accused of murder, but more than likely get convicted of manslaughter.
Doesn’t matter how you define your own private language, but in English, words have meanings.
You’re just deadset against something, because you’re an absolutist who can’t listen to reason. If those “senseless murderers” stop their “murdering”, a lot MORE people AND animals will DIE.
That shouldn’t be too hard to understand, I think, so I must conclude that you are willfully ignoring it.
Just like you’re willfully ignoring the part where your childish logic being applied anywhere else shows just how ridiculous it is.
You’ve yet to answer whether you think all plumbers think about scat porn all the time?
Hunters actively set out to kill things, spend thousands on equipment, and pay fees for the right to do so. Convince yourself however you need to, but hunters are murderers. You don’t accidentally cover yourself in camo and deer piss to go hide in a tree and wait for a deer to come along so you can kill it and claim some sort of “manly” victory over nature or whatever.
Hunters have a desire to kill things. The only difference between a hunter and a serial killer is a modicum of self-control about target selection.
You’re extremely childish and there’s no having an adult conversation with you I see.
You just won’t listen and use these ridiculously childish notions that are beyond easy to prove wrong as absolute truth, and you also need to ignore most of my replies.
Because you don’t know shit about hunting, but wish to paint every single person as a “murderer”.
Are vets psychopathic murderers? Because most of what most veterinarians do is just put animals down, day in and day out.
But I’m sure in your tiny mind vets are animal loving heroes, despite them killing a lot more animals than hunters. And they do it year round.
You’re still ignoring the FACT that if these hunters didn’t exist, there would be way more problems and more deaths of humans and animals.
You have to ignore it, because it breaks down your childish rhetoric.
You’re an extremely simple minded child who refuses to acknowledge the reality of nature. Death is a part of life, no matter how removed from it you’ve been kept by some religious parents or something.
So, how many hunters do you know in real life? Why are you ignoring the definition of murder? Why are you ignoring literally everything that I’ve said? Is it because you hold simplistic childish notion that you can’t defend in a rational adult conversation? (It is, yes.)