• @Sanctus
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    Its included for free in every campaign and neither power will change that fron the top. Again, what is your answer? It sounds like you’re advocating for flipping the table and not participating.

    • @LinkerbaanOP
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      Your answer is directly supporting a party promising Genocide is the same as a party promising no Genocide?

      • @Sanctus
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        43 months ago

        No, I’m literally asking you what you think we should do if not vote Democrat. What is your idea?

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            33 months ago

            Believe me, I wish we lived in some solarpunk place that cared. But as a sort of response to Linker, we won’t get it by Varuca Salting it into existence. Jill Stein is not the champion to lead us there. No one is. It will take all of us to overthrow the crushing heel of those who own these planet devouring industries.

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          Yes do not vote Democrat if the Genocide is not stopped before the election. Stein is a great alternative but anything except Dems and Republicans is fine.

          • @Sanctus
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            33 months ago

            That would need an insane grass roots effort I’m just not seeing here. We should focus on implementing ranked choice or any other voting system than FPTP that makes more candidates viable.

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              Even if you don’t care about brown people getting Genocided, Democrats are not implementing FPTP. GPTP is just another strawman for “vote blue this time we’ll figure it out next time” and then the Democrats don’t provide the wanted changes.

              The reason Democrats keep shifting right is because they only need to appeal to Republicans. Since they feel it’s literally impossible to lose a left vote, because they’re doing an actual Genocide right now.

              This 30 second video explains it quite well.

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                33 months ago

                Yeah I get it. But right now thats gonna net us Trump. I care about brown people, as you say, but I also care about how shit is here at home. So I’m not gonna vote third party until our FPTP system is changed. Especially during an election where Trump is on the board again. Thats gonna net us Trump again no matter how self righteous we wanna be.

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                  No it will net us a stop to the Genocide if there’s enough voting pressure in polling. Biden stepping down because he tanked in the polls is ultimate proof of it. Demanding change for your vote is possible without FPTP.

                  Instead of working against third party advocates it’s more effective to work with them and create pressure to stop the Genocide so people can vote Democrat again. And also the Genocide stops nice bonus.

                  Thats gonna net us Trump again no matter how self righteous we wanna be.

                  Trump will be the same as the Democrats. Kamala and Biden have already pledged to support a war with Iran and the entire region. Israel is just now starting Genocide #2 in the West Bank under Biden.

                  If the Democrats want to be not-Trump they actually have to be not-Trump instead of just saying they’re not-Trump.

                  And if Democrats believe supporting a Genocide is more important than beating Trump, you have to wonder if they’re as afraid of Trump as they pretend they are.

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                    23 months ago

                    Trump is the same as the Democrats? Bad take