The older I get the more I despise Nazis and the political right. I thought I was supposed to become more conservative as I got older, but now I’m a hippie (almost against my choice) and the only thing I can’t stand the kids doing is bigotry in their dumbass social media.
You’re only “supposed to get more conservative as you get older” cause that was the Boomer experience and Boomers can’t imagine anyone else experiencing life differently, so they railed their experiences into everyone’s heads as “fact” when it wasnt.
“Conservative” means… to conserve. You (and everyone) gets more conservative as they age because you kinda want to conserve the status quo you, personally are used to.
Here’s the thing: with social progress, what you want to conserve is different from what the generation before the progress wants to preserve.
You are a conservative, as in conserving, of the progress that we have achieved. The “conservatives” you refer to, the “political right”, are not conservative. They are regressives, the opposite of progressives (though they might not like the connotation of that label, and will denounce it). These people would like to regress society to a time when these members of society had more consolidation of power (feudalism, fascism, racist/sexist segregation). Nothing “conservative” about that in terms of a human lifetime. In fact none of those people were around to experience what feudalism, fascism, segregation etc. was actually like. Many of these people may have been sold a lie by the 1% for the exclusive benefit of the 1%.
I’m a conservative, but I’m getting disillusioned by the movement. Barely any of them seem to care about actually limiting the scope of the government, which is one of my biggest political values, and many seem to be either dumb or grifters. Even worse, we’ve got alt-right Christian nationalists calling for a theocratic fascist state. This isn’t how either Christians nor conservatives are supposed to behave, but I don’t think there’s a political home for me anywhere else. I’d be more at home with the centrists if I wasn’t still right wing to some degree.
I support small government, but not no government. I respect anarchism and libertarianism, but I don’t think that type of society would work well enough for my liking.
Anarchism isn’t chaos, or no government. It’s not even strictly for “smaller” government. But flatter government. Anarchist organization and government aren’t oxymorons.
The anarchist movement has a massive messaging issue / needs to decide what it actually is. I think this problem is itself caused by the movement being made of anarchists, who do not as easily fall into a decision-making structure.
They are not anymore confused or vague than economic liberalism. Many like to pretend they’re libertarian. And others differ/clash over social and bigotry issues. Like Republicans and Democrats. Despite being similar economically.
If you’ve ever heard the phrase “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”. That is the kernel behind anarchism. Power should be kept as granular, diluted, and as flat as possible. As an effort to control and reduce corruption. Large complex hierarchies quickly go beyond being simply efficient mechanisms of administration. Into being structures to concentrate and abstract power. The only real debate or disagreement happens around where that divisor is. Antisocial ones who argue that even a neighborhood town Council are to authoritarian and dictatorial. All the way to the ones who are reasonably down for a permissive National Council of some sort.
It’s a nonsense framework anyway. I have conservative leanings in 2A aspects and hard left leanings in such social aspects as gender and sexuality. Everyone just has to find their best fit, and the American duopoly I live under is a godawful system for that. Proportional representation would be better, but only to a degree.
I wonder if that’s even true. Sure, corporations aren’t black-bagging people in the night (yet), and the VOC genociding entire islands was many many years ago, but who put lead in gasoline and lied about its safety? Who covered up decades of climate change research? Why are we inhaling a credit card of microplastics every week? How are property management companies colluding on rents to create price floors and evict families?
Or here’s something forward-looking:
If Albertsons and Kroger are allowed to merge, do you think that’d be a good thing for American food security? If the government was not powerful enough to stop the merger, what should the citizenry do?
The older I get the more I despise Nazis and the political right. I thought I was supposed to become more conservative as I got older, but now I’m a hippie (almost against my choice) and the only thing I can’t stand the kids doing is bigotry in their dumbass social media.
You’re only “supposed to get more conservative as you get older” cause that was the Boomer experience and Boomers can’t imagine anyone else experiencing life differently, so they railed their experiences into everyone’s heads as “fact” when it wasnt.
Boomers became conservative when they started making money
“Conservative” means… to conserve. You (and everyone) gets more conservative as they age because you kinda want to conserve the status quo you, personally are used to.
Here’s the thing: with social progress, what you want to conserve is different from what the generation before the progress wants to preserve.
You are a conservative, as in conserving, of the progress that we have achieved. The “conservatives” you refer to, the “political right”, are not conservative. They are regressives, the opposite of progressives (though they might not like the connotation of that label, and will denounce it). These people would like to regress society to a time when these members of society had more consolidation of power (feudalism, fascism, racist/sexist segregation). Nothing “conservative” about that in terms of a human lifetime. In fact none of those people were around to experience what feudalism, fascism, segregation etc. was actually like. Many of these people may have been sold a lie by the 1% for the exclusive benefit of the 1%.
Conservatives have changed, they are way more extreme now and don’t hide their prejudices.
I’m a conservative, but I’m getting disillusioned by the movement. Barely any of them seem to care about actually limiting the scope of the government, which is one of my biggest political values, and many seem to be either dumb or grifters. Even worse, we’ve got alt-right Christian nationalists calling for a theocratic fascist state. This isn’t how either Christians nor conservatives are supposed to behave, but I don’t think there’s a political home for me anywhere else. I’d be more at home with the centrists if I wasn’t still right wing to some degree.
If your main value is small government, have you looked into classical anarchism?
I support small government, but not no government. I respect anarchism and libertarianism, but I don’t think that type of society would work well enough for my liking.
Anarchism isn’t chaos, or no government. It’s not even strictly for “smaller” government. But flatter government. Anarchist organization and government aren’t oxymorons.
The anarchist movement has a massive messaging issue / needs to decide what it actually is. I think this problem is itself caused by the movement being made of anarchists, who do not as easily fall into a decision-making structure.
They are not anymore confused or vague than economic liberalism. Many like to pretend they’re libertarian. And others differ/clash over social and bigotry issues. Like Republicans and Democrats. Despite being similar economically.
If you’ve ever heard the phrase “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”. That is the kernel behind anarchism. Power should be kept as granular, diluted, and as flat as possible. As an effort to control and reduce corruption. Large complex hierarchies quickly go beyond being simply efficient mechanisms of administration. Into being structures to concentrate and abstract power. The only real debate or disagreement happens around where that divisor is. Antisocial ones who argue that even a neighborhood town Council are to authoritarian and dictatorial. All the way to the ones who are reasonably down for a permissive National Council of some sort.
It’s a nonsense framework anyway. I have conservative leanings in 2A aspects and hard left leanings in such social aspects as gender and sexuality. Everyone just has to find their best fit, and the American duopoly I live under is a godawful system for that. Proportional representation would be better, but only to a degree.
ive got great news for you. compare the US left to the political right in most of the world and youll fit right in with the Democrats.
Why?
Smaller government = bigger corporations. And corporate control = everything goes to shit. We’ve reached maximum shareholder primacy.
And it’s not like we can “vote with our dollar” anymore, with how consolidated everything is. For example, consider the attempts at boycotting Nestle…
Big government usually has more power to do more harm than big government, as the state has a monopoly on violence to a degree.
I wonder if that’s even true. Sure, corporations aren’t black-bagging people in the night (yet), and the VOC genociding entire islands was many many years ago, but who put lead in gasoline and lied about its safety? Who covered up decades of climate change research? Why are we inhaling a credit card of microplastics every week? How are property management companies colluding on rents to create price floors and evict families?
Or here’s something forward-looking:
If Albertsons and Kroger are allowed to merge, do you think that’d be a good thing for American food security? If the government was not powerful enough to stop the merger, what should the citizenry do?