• Lvxferre
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    -815 days ago

    not reading the fucking sidebar

    Yeah, I get that this is a place to vent. And I get why to vent about this. LLMs and other A"I" systems (with quotation marks because this shite is not intelligent!) are being shoved down every bloody where, regardless of actual usefulness, safety, or user desire. Telling you to put glue on your pizza, to eat poisonous mushrooms, that “cherish” has five letters, that Latin had no [w], that the Chinese are inferior to Westerners.

    While a crowd of irrationals tell you “it is intelligent, you can’t prove otherwise! CHRUST IT YOU DIRTY SCEPTIC/INFIDEL/LUDDITE REEEE! LALALA I’M PRETENDING TO NOT SEE THE HALLUCINATION LALALA”.

    I also get the privacy nightmare that this shit is. And the whole deal behind “we’re using your content as training data, and then selling the result back to you”. Or that it’s eating electricity like there’s no tomorrow, in a planet where global warming is a present issue.

    I get it. I get it all. That’s why I’m here. And if you (or anyone else) think that I’m here for any other reason, by all means, check my profile - you’ll find plenty pieces of criticism against those stupid corporate AI takes from vulture capital. (And plenty instances of me calling HN “Redditors LARPing as Hax0rz”. )

    However. Pretending that there’s no use case ever for LLMs is the wrong way to go.

    and thinking this is high school debate club fallacy

    If calling it “nirvana fallacy” rubs you the wrong way, here’s an alternative: “this argument is fucking stupid, in a very specific way: it pretends that either something is perfect or it’s useless, with no middle ground.”

    The other user however does not deserve the unnecessary abrasiveness so I’ll keep simply calling it “nirvana fallacy”.

    • @[email protected]
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      815 days ago

      holy shit, imagine getting a second chance to not be a fucking debatelord and doubling down this hard

      off you fuck

      • @[email protected]
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        815 days ago

        People just out here acting like a fundamentally, inextricably unreliable and unethical technology has a “use case”

        smdh

        • @[email protected]
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          815 days ago

          fucking right! there’s this unearned assumption that just because the tech’s been invented, it must have worth. and, like, no? there’s so many dead ends in science and technology, and notoriously throwing money at something doesn’t change its fundamental nature

          and now I’m pissed and trying to decide if it’s even worth explicitly adding “don’t be a debatelord asshole” to the TechTakes sidebar, cause it’s not like they’re gonna stop

          • @[email protected]
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            815 days ago

            “We’re not saying it doesn’t have its flaws, but you need to appreciate the potential of the radium cockring!”

          • @[email protected]
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            714 days ago

            notoriously throwing money at something doesn’t change its fundamental nature

            to wildly abword a phrase I’ve seen elsewhere: “idiocy can remain solvent longer than you can”

    • @[email protected]
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      14 days ago

      this argument

      I agree, you’re quite right, and I thank you for taking the time and putting in the effort on such a wonderfully thorough portrayal of why your argument is total horseshit