• @f1ip
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    192 months ago

    When has fairness ever happened in F1? It is all a factor of who you aligned yourself with.

    Pourchaire was in the Sauber academy, Sauber academy is a mess, he pays the price. It has nothing to do with fairness or worth or who won what. How many F2 champions have never even sniffed an F1 seat?

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      62 months ago

      From 2005 (when F2 was re-founded) to 2011, every F2 champion except Giorgo Pantano made it into F1. Valsecchi (2012) and Leimer (2013) didn’t make it, but again from 2014 to 2021 every single champion made it into F1. Drugovich and Pourchaire not so far.

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        62 months ago

        Which is my point. Five out of 19 never made it and this year is looking doubtful (even with all the Audi rumours). Plus, once the driver academies came into being, winning F2 at the wrong time is a problem. Piastri being the clearest example, Alpine screwed up and he only made it to F1 because they are a terribly run team and McL poached him.

        And fairness is an irrelevant concept in sports, there is no fairness and there never was. If there was, Jacques Villeneuve would have been kicked out of motorsports once he released his album.

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          32 months ago

          Yeah the academies definitely stopped the idea of “if you win a junior championship you’re on a way to F1”. Nowadays it’s “if you’re in an academy you’re on a way to F1”. And winning a championship might only be a part of enabling you to get into an academy.

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            22 months ago

            And there are a few academies that are now moneymakers, taking drivers that are sons/daughters of rich people and/or have good sponsors, pretending to give them a path into something, and just collecting that money.

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            22 months ago

            Just to cement the point we were discussing: https://x.com/ZakOSullivan/status/1833177788628476134

            Race winner, challenging at the front with some consistency, but out of a seat. Not sure what happened, but F1 academy drivers should not lose funding to finish an F2 season…

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              22 months ago

              I imagine Williams wasn’t ready to pay as much for his seat as Art GP wanted. And some other sponsor that should have paid the difference fell through?

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                22 months ago

                It might be a combination of factors, but it is weird for an academy backed driver to be bumped as the season is almost done.

                And yes, I would guess that Williams was not paying 100% of the cost. Which again is weird, because the concept, as I understood, was support in exchange for exclusivity of driver’s services and less leeway for the driver to choose his path.

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                  22 months ago

                  Each Academy works differently. For example, Alpine’s academy is said to be very good in providing training opportunities for their drivers, while Red Bull doesn’t offer any special training and just expects their drivers to be good but gets them way better spots in championships.