I wish I could speak now about how far we’ve come as a civilization, how far men have come, how far common society has come… but I can’t. Nobody here can because we haven’t. Sure, we can pretend we have, and, sure, in some small ways we have perhaps, but in all of th me important ways, society is still the pig-headed and backwards, sexist and misogynistic clod it was back then, eager to deny women the right to her own bodily autonomy or right to act in her own capacity. Unless she taught for it.
Well, now a lot more than women are at risk of losing their rights unless they vote this November, so remember what’s at risk.
Really? I just wrote a big long reply before I realised all I need to say is that you are on the verge of having your first female president and you want to wallow in the fiction that the bad guys represent not just the USA consensus, but the whole world? You know they don’t.
Chances of a female leader in the USA in 1920s? Zero.
2020s? You’ve already had one female politician who won the popular vote in 2016 and now have one who might win the whole thing.
If you are willing to look outside the USA you might notice there are a few counties who already beat you to it… by decades.
While things are by no means equal. Stop acting like we’ve made no progress.
Before 1776, women had a vote in several of the colonies in what would become the United States, but by 1807 every state constitution had denied women even limited suffrage.
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Full women’s suffrage continued in Wyoming after it became a state in 1890. Colorado granted partial voting rights that allowed women to vote in school board elections in 1893 and Idaho granted women suffrage in 1896. Beginning with Washington in 1910, seven more western states passed women’s suffrage legislation, including California in 1911, Oregon, Arizona, and Kansas in 1912, Alaska Territory in 1913, and Montana and Nevada in 1914. All states that were successful in securing full voting rights for women before 1920 were located in the West.[13][25]
Much of the opposition to the amendment came from Southern Democrats; only two former Confederate states (Texas and Arkansas) and three border states voted for ratification,[42] with Kentucky and West Virginia not doing so until 1920.
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Leser said the amendment “destroyed State autonomy” because it increased Maryland’s electorate without the state’s consent. The Supreme Court answered that the Nineteenth Amendment had similar wording to the Fifteenth Amendment, which had expanded state electorates without regard to race for more than fifty years by that time despite rejection by six states (including Maryland).[94][97]
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After the U.S. presidential election in 1924, politicians realized the women’s bloc they had feared did not actually exist and they did not need to cater to what they considered as “women’s issues” after all.[105] The eventual appearance of an American women’s voting bloc has been tracked to various dates, depending on the source, from the 1950s[106] to 1970.[107] Around 1980, a nationwide gender gap in voting had emerged, with women usually favoring the Democratic candidate in presidential elections.[108]
On the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th Amendment, President Donald Trump posthumously pardoned Susan B. Anthony.[146]
In her essay “Woman Suffrage”, she ridicules the idea that women’s involvement would infuse the democratic state with a more just orientation: “As if women have not sold their votes, as if women politicians cannot be bought!”[182] She agreed with the suffragists’ assertion that women are equal to men but disagreed that their participation alone would make the state more just. “To assume, therefore, that she would succeed in purifying something which is not susceptible of purification, is to credit her with supernatural powers.”[183] Goldman was also critical of Zionism, which she saw as another failed experiment in state control.[184]
People used to live in literal slavery, women couldn’t vote and were considered property in all but name, 12 year old kids were working 16 hour days, 6-7 days per week in coal mines, a business could have you thrown in prison if you owed them money, and union protestors were literally murdered on the picket line by hired Pinkertons. We benefit from a ton of progress that previous generations fought, bled, and died for. You’re being incredibly disrespectful towards those people who fought, and died for our rights by saying we haven’t progressed. Yes, we still have progress ahead of us, but don’t discount all of the progress that has been made. This is just a short list too. There are a hundred or a thousand areas where we’re better off than the people holding these signs were.
I wish I could speak now about how far we’ve come as a civilization, how far men have come, how far common society has come… but I can’t. Nobody here can because we haven’t. Sure, we can pretend we have, and, sure, in some small ways we have perhaps, but in all of th me important ways, society is still the pig-headed and backwards, sexist and misogynistic clod it was back then, eager to deny women the right to her own bodily autonomy or right to act in her own capacity. Unless she taught for it.
Well, now a lot more than women are at risk of losing their rights unless they vote this November, so remember what’s at risk.
Really? I just wrote a big long reply before I realised all I need to say is that you are on the verge of having your first female president and you want to wallow in the fiction that the bad guys represent not just the USA consensus, but the whole world? You know they don’t. Chances of a female leader in the USA in 1920s? Zero. 2020s? You’ve already had one female politician who won the popular vote in 2016 and now have one who might win the whole thing. If you are willing to look outside the USA you might notice there are a few counties who already beat you to it… by decades. While things are by no means equal. Stop acting like we’ve made no progress.
The kind of comment that you’re replying to feels like propaganda since it’s so completely out of touch with reality.
You’re the one out of touch.
Okie dokie.
Doomscrolling is bad for your mental health.
The idea that no significant progress has been made is nearsighted and defeatist.
wp:Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
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People used to live in literal slavery, women couldn’t vote and were considered property in all but name, 12 year old kids were working 16 hour days, 6-7 days per week in coal mines, a business could have you thrown in prison if you owed them money, and union protestors were literally murdered on the picket line by hired Pinkertons. We benefit from a ton of progress that previous generations fought, bled, and died for. You’re being incredibly disrespectful towards those people who fought, and died for our rights by saying we haven’t progressed. Yes, we still have progress ahead of us, but don’t discount all of the progress that has been made. This is just a short list too. There are a hundred or a thousand areas where we’re better off than the people holding these signs were.