I got a 30 day suspension from /r/news for calling Antifa “a violent organization”. Got down voted to hell and called a Nazi sympathizer… I’ve only ever voted Democrat.
And antifa can be violent, though it’s not really an organization. Wikipedia describes it as a movement. And given the fact that fascists have ruined every country where they took power, violence against them is wholly justified.
Antifa is a politically diverse group, only defined by being opposed to fascism, as sane people should be. If you were to ask 2 antifascists about how society should be run, you’d likely get 2 different answers. Same as for any group not defined by support for a political ideology.
How I unpopularly say it “Kyle Rittenhouse is a dumb sack of shit that did us a favor and took out 3 other even worse sacks of shit”. He didn’t go to prison because he accidentally did society a favor, but a lot of people are scared to admit that.
Edit: wait a minute. On your profile, you have “Once you’ve been to Gaza, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Benjamin Netanyahu to death with your bare hands.”
Ok, fuck right off. What Netanyahu is doing in Gaza is the same shit the Nazis did to the Jews and other “undesirables”. You don’t get to act like we can debate the Nazis away while calling for violence against people you personalty don’t like.
Not choosint violence = concern troll?
Come on, I just disagree with you.
I don’t support violent solutions when I don’t deem them absolutely necessary — I don’t think that punching Nazis will inch the Nazis any closer on their path back to sanity. Using violence causes trauma. Traumatized people are at risk to create more violence which results in more traumatized people. What I am advocating for is breaking the cycle and choosing therapy and connection rather than war and violence. If a Nazi walks armed into your home, fuck them up no problem. But punching a Nazi while they are being interviewed on TV? Punching a Nazi for having a swastika tattoo? Fuck no, that’s the spot where you will create trauma just so you can feel like you’re the big guy here and could defend yourself from the “evil Nazi”. It’s incredibly black-and-white to use this as a blanket license for violence. You then inch closer to the ideals of Nazis, you become the monsters you want to fight.
The quote I have is a play on the Kissinger one. Netanyahu is a war criminal and it makes me what to punch him to death but I won’t because I can control my fucking emotions and can never predict the violent spiral coming in the future if I choose to kill a person.
Big brain time… maybe trading one form of violent politics for another form of violent politics isn’t the answer, but I get why both Nazis and Antifa wouldn’t want to listen to Ghandi and MLKs message.
I got a 30 day suspension from /r/news for calling Antifa “a violent organization”. Got down voted to hell and called a Nazi sympathizer… I’ve only ever voted Democrat.
Is Antifa an actual organization? I thought it was kind of an ad hoc moniker.
In guess they have “leaders” in the same way Anonymous has “leaders”. Just like whoever claims it that week
So not at all, got it
And antifa can be violent, though it’s not really an organization. Wikipedia describes it as a movement. And given the fact that fascists have ruined every country where they took power, violence against them is wholly justified.
But their idealized version of political control is just fascism by a different group of ultra wealthy people
Lol you don’t know a thing about antifa…tell me what’s their idealized version of political control again?? Lmfao.
Antifa is a politically diverse group, only defined by being opposed to fascism, as sane people should be. If you were to ask 2 antifascists about how society should be run, you’d likely get 2 different answers. Same as for any group not defined by support for a political ideology.
I pointed out that Kyle Rittenhouse had multiple people trying to kill him, and was actively running away from all three people he shot.
That went well.
Yeah it’s not like decades of school shooter drills ingrained the idea that you attack a random guy waving a gun or anything …
First, this wasn’t in a school. Second, I don’t think attacking the gunman while unarmed is part of those drills.
How I unpopularly say it “Kyle Rittenhouse is a dumb sack of shit that did us a favor and took out 3 other even worse sacks of shit”. He didn’t go to prison because he accidentally did society a favor, but a lot of people are scared to admit that.
I have a friend who hangs out with ANTIFA to punch Nazis. He does it for the symbolism, makes him feel like a hero when he is violent. No thanks.
Sounds like a cool friend.
Yeah let make punching Nazis great again. Not cuz we disagree but because they’re already coming to punch us.
He is a cool guy but what the fuck. Senselesd traumatizing violence and nothing really changes.
Nah, Nazis were the butt of jokes for decades and should be again. Fuck them.
Or do you think we can tolerate them away?
So I cannot disagree with them without using violence that makes me no better than them? How sad this sounds.
Ok Concern Troll.
Edit: wait a minute. On your profile, you have “Once you’ve been to Gaza, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Benjamin Netanyahu to death with your bare hands.”
Ok, fuck right off. What Netanyahu is doing in Gaza is the same shit the Nazis did to the Jews and other “undesirables”. You don’t get to act like we can debate the Nazis away while calling for violence against people you personalty don’t like.
Not choosint violence = concern troll? Come on, I just disagree with you.
I don’t support violent solutions when I don’t deem them absolutely necessary — I don’t think that punching Nazis will inch the Nazis any closer on their path back to sanity. Using violence causes trauma. Traumatized people are at risk to create more violence which results in more traumatized people. What I am advocating for is breaking the cycle and choosing therapy and connection rather than war and violence. If a Nazi walks armed into your home, fuck them up no problem. But punching a Nazi while they are being interviewed on TV? Punching a Nazi for having a swastika tattoo? Fuck no, that’s the spot where you will create trauma just so you can feel like you’re the big guy here and could defend yourself from the “evil Nazi”. It’s incredibly black-and-white to use this as a blanket license for violence. You then inch closer to the ideals of Nazis, you become the monsters you want to fight.
The quote I have is a play on the Kissinger one. Netanyahu is a war criminal and it makes me what to punch him to death but I won’t because I can control my fucking emotions and can never predict the violent spiral coming in the future if I choose to kill a person.
Big brain time… maybe trading one form of violent politics for another form of violent politics isn’t the answer, but I get why both Nazis and Antifa wouldn’t want to listen to Ghandi and MLKs message.