Questions are being raised about the case of a 36-year-old Ontario woman who died of liver failure after she was rejected for a life-saving liver transplant after a medical review highlighted her prior alcohol use.
I’m not debating that she stopped drinking after diagnosis. I’m debating the rest of your opinion:
"Stopping to drink for a few weeks after you realize you are about to die from drinking… doesn’t really make a difference here. Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic for most of her life and, before diagnosis, did not show any capacity to quit
So, even if she did stopped drinking 100% after May… it was just too late"
So again, please back your statement up with a direct quote from the article. I’ll wait, but excuse me if I don’t hold my breath.
Oh so you want me to explain to you why there are medical directives that rule out life long alcoholics from receiving incredibly scarce organs for transplant?
There is a ton of info here (first link after googling alcoholism and relapsing)
No, I wanted you to quote the article. Here, I’ll do it for you:
"The survival rate of patients with alcohol-related liver disease who receive a deceased donor liver transplant has steadily improved to reach 80–85 per cent at one year after a transplant.
Studies show that living liver transplants for alcohol liver disease have similar survival rates to other forms of liver disease.
But a study from the University Health Network showed that 86 per cent of those with alcohol-induced liver damage who were referred for transplants were rejected. Only 14 per cent of those who applied were accepted, and just six per cent received a liver transplant. There is a concern that patients with alcohol use disorder will relapse, damaging the new organ, though studies show the risk is around 15 per cent."
… Which refutes your opinions. Gee, can’t imagine why you didn’t want to quote that.
I don’t have to imagine why that board wouldn’t want to find every excuse in the book to deny the patient the transplant either… Seems like they have several hundred thousand of them:
"Using the most recent data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information on hospital bed costs (2016), Huska’s time at the Oakville hospital likely cost over $450,000 - ($3,592 per day for ICU care) with an additional 61 days in a ward bed which likely cost about $1,200 a day
A liver transplant in Ontario is pegged at about $71,000 to $100,000 in Ontario based on data from 2019."
I’m not debating that she stopped drinking after diagnosis. I’m debating the rest of your opinion: "Stopping to drink for a few weeks after you realize you are about to die from drinking… doesn’t really make a difference here. Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic for most of her life and, before diagnosis, did not show any capacity to quit
So, even if she did stopped drinking 100% after May… it was just too late"
So again, please back your statement up with a direct quote from the article. I’ll wait, but excuse me if I don’t hold my breath.
Oh so you want me to explain to you why there are medical directives that rule out life long alcoholics from receiving incredibly scarce organs for transplant?
There is a ton of info here (first link after googling alcoholism and relapsing)
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/alcohol-abuse/alcohol-relapse-statistics/
No, I wanted you to quote the article. Here, I’ll do it for you: "The survival rate of patients with alcohol-related liver disease who receive a deceased donor liver transplant has steadily improved to reach 80–85 per cent at one year after a transplant.
Studies show that living liver transplants for alcohol liver disease have similar survival rates to other forms of liver disease.
But a study from the University Health Network showed that 86 per cent of those with alcohol-induced liver damage who were referred for transplants were rejected. Only 14 per cent of those who applied were accepted, and just six per cent received a liver transplant. There is a concern that patients with alcohol use disorder will relapse, damaging the new organ, though studies show the risk is around 15 per cent."
… Which refutes your opinions. Gee, can’t imagine why you didn’t want to quote that.
I don’t have to imagine why that board wouldn’t want to find every excuse in the book to deny the patient the transplant either… Seems like they have several hundred thousand of them: "Using the most recent data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information on hospital bed costs (2016), Huska’s time at the Oakville hospital likely cost over $450,000 - ($3,592 per day for ICU care) with an additional 61 days in a ward bed which likely cost about $1,200 a day
A liver transplant in Ontario is pegged at about $71,000 to $100,000 in Ontario based on data from 2019."
Yeah, that survival rate is for people that do not start drinking again… So, likely not her you know