(This post is referring to tiktok, instagram reels, youtube shorts type content)

So it’s no secret that for half a decade now we’ve had short form video content get increasingly popularised. To the point where your uncle probably watches them on some platform and so does your 6 year old.

Now in terms of addictiveness, privacy falling through the roof, advertising down your throat, etc. we’ve reached new records. But that isn’t what this post is about.

I never used this format much, except in 2020 during the pandemic, but I can’t help but notice when I do. Even if I make a brand new VPN’d account for it. Every 5-10th post or so wil be some kind of culture war propaganda.

The kind of stuff that made me an edgy right wing bigot as a teenager because I got influenced by it on youtube. Luckily, I grew and changed. Unfortunately, many former friends, not so much.

On a completely new account you’ll get bombarded with videos like:

  • “This is why women NEED real MEN”
  • “How to piss of a cyclist”
  • ”If a climate activist is blocking the road, you should be allowed to run over them”
  • ”When MEN were thrown a grenade, they reacted quickly, WOMEN got confused and scared. That’s why we NEED men in the army”
  • Wholesome looking video — homophobic caption: “This is why children need both a mum and a dad”

These are all examples I got today when I decided to make completely new accounts on a new device with a VPN. I tried youtube shorts and tiktok for this and scrolled 20ish videos on each without liking anything.

It scares me how much there is a strong rightward shift amongst the younger population. To the point where 18-24’s in recent german elections have voted the most for the borderline neo-nazi AFD party. I know these parties are by far the most active and very popular on tiktok.

I know to some people these examples might seem anoying but trivial. But you are forgetting how impressionable children and teenagers are. There really is this thing called the alt-right pipeline. One very specific example which impacted me at a younger age, was you start with “mad karen” type videos, then after a couple you get recommended “mad SJW” videos, I think you see where I’m going with this, after a while you’re on “feminism debunked” and watching peterson/crowder/shapiro. I know many childhood friends who went down this pipeline and became insufferably racist bigot adults.

I wonder what others think on this?

  • @MimicJar
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    23 months ago

    Out of curiosity do you see similar results without the VPN? A well known VPN provider might already be flagged to show certain types of content.

    Of course that’s all secondary since this is a problem with most of these services (and not just short form content). I don’t see a situation where we can ensure people don’t see this sort of content. Plus it would be impossible to properly categorize “good” vs “bad”. I think you’ve just got to make sure that the opposing content is available and that friends/family can help direct people. People who found their way in need to find their way out, but they can have help.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      3 months ago

      I had noticed this trend in the past few years. And recently I got a completely new device so I thought that’s a perfect blank slate, without all the who knows how trackable device stuff and cache and everything to test it on, so I set up just vpn on my current location, windscribe VPN; and got those results. But I get similar ones without VPN too.

      • @MimicJar
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        23 months ago

        That’s good(?) to know. I asked because I didn’t get those results, I got stupid food, Harris/Trump stuff, kids dancing and obvious ads. Who knows with algorithm stuff how they decide to start.