The United States on September 13 said the Russian news outlet RT is taking orders directly from the Kremlin and working with Russian military intelligence to spread disinformation around the world to undermine democracies.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States has gathered new evidence that exposes cooperation between RT and four other subsidiaries of the Rossia Segodnya media group, and it intends to warn other countries of the threat of the disinformation.

In addition to RT, Rossia Segodnya operates RIA Novosti, TV-Novosti, Ruptly, and Sputnik, but the announcement on September 13 focused largely on RT. The outlet, formerly known as Russia Today, has previously been sanctioned for its work to allegedly spread Kremlin propaganda and disinformation.

  • Maeve
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    -42 months ago

    So we can enact criminal and financial penalties on untrue articles, and stop redefining terms when what is untrue when it becomes inconvenient for us, especially businesses and politicians. And redirect institutions away from retribution to rehabilitation. If a behavior is repeated, by domestic or foreign entities, they don’t get to operate here.

    • @Carrolade
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      42 months ago

      So, we have a first amendment, we actually cannot prohibit or penalize someone for distributing propaganda to our citizens, that law would be illegal to make. We can make them register as foreign agents, that’s how the tenet media people got in trouble, that and being shady with where their money was coming from. We have no charges for propaganda distribution though, despite the very clear evidence of the behavior.

      To your other question, like I said, I have no real good ideas on concrete steps we can take that might prove useful. Unless we want to repeal the first amendment or something, which I don’t think is a good idea.

      • Maeve
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        -42 months ago

        So your idea is rules for foreign entities, not our own?

        Who will serve as a check for what’s true and when terms are *redefined, if it’s our darlings, whether media moguls or politicians, doing the redefining?

        • @Carrolade
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          42 months ago

          For the third time, I don’t have any good ideas. I don’t have a “my idea” and haven’t presented one. That’s why I asked for yours, since maybe you, as a human that is not me, thought of or read something that I haven’t.

          This sentence:

          So your idea is rules for foreign entities, not our own?

          is something you concocted in your head somehow.

          I just pointed out that your idea is illegal, that’s all.

          • Maeve
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            -42 months ago

            I’d point out that you’re asking of me solutions you’re unable or unwilling to deliver, but that’s whataboutery, and off limits, so I myself should just “shut up.”

            • @Carrolade
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              32 months ago

              Asking someone if they have any good ideas when I can’t think of any is not some sort of foul play. I don’t know how you get such a basic “can anyone think of something?” idea so twisted up.

              And whataboutism is this:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

              • Maeve
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                -22 months ago

                And I gave you ideas. You gave* me nothing of value. You wasted my time, because you’re more invested in “winning” the argument, rather than working out viable solutions. Silencing RT doesn’t give any pushback on anything our own propagandists feed us.

                • @Carrolade
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                  22 months ago

                  All I did was point out your idea was illegal, knowing an idea would not work is not “nothing of value”. Perhaps I should have clarified, are there any legal ideas that might move us forward in a positive direction? Knowing that it is illegal to violate:

                  Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press

                  The key is working out viable solutions. We can’t just magic up unviable ones and get upset when someone points out they’re not viable.

                  • Maeve
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                    -22 months ago

                    I’m not upset, and I’m not upset at pushback on it own propaganda machine, either.