• Deme
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    -12 months ago

    The process I described unfortunately does take longer than the initial lashing outs of the establisment. A couple of “martyrs” may not be the worst thing either.

    YungOnions already provided you with some good articles about why and how nonviolent disruption works. I suggest you read them.

    • @[email protected]
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      02 months ago

      JSO “martyrs” are for the cause of free speech, not against oil. JSO is distracting people from oil. JSO is diverting legislative attention away from oil.

      I suggest you stop reading articles, and start looking at reality. The reality is that JSO has demonstrated they are as effective at “disrupting” the oil industry as the Westboro Baptist Church has been at “disrupting” homosexuality: not the fuck at all.

      • Deme
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        2 months ago

        I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

        Our two parallel discussions are about the methods of protesting against the use of fossil fuels. Our discussions here exists because of JSO. It got you thinking about what should be done to get rid of the use of fossil fuels, even if this was just for the purposes of making counterarguments.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 months ago

          I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

          I agree, they’ve done a bangup job bringing attention to the ongoing fight against jaywalking.

          Against oil, not so much.