• @[email protected]
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    -172 days ago

    seemingly anywhere else a knife-wielding assailant can be subdued without blood being drawn,

    Where has this actually happened though? I very much doubt it’s standard practice for any police force.

    • @Jiggle_Physics
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      156 minutes ago

      This happens in England fairly often, actually. The basic cops don’t have guns, they have specifics fire arms units. Sometimes detectives can carry, but they have to have a written justification for it, and it is very closely monitored. Even tasers are considered firearms for these purposed. They use a combination of PAVA and CS spray, speed cuffs, and, if the person isn’t deterred with the spray, batons. The batons are not allowed to be used on the head, and each use is investigated to a degree that would make american police quit.

      So how it normally goes, police arrive to man weilding knife, give warning, spray, tackle, cuff. If the spray doesn’t seem put them in a state in which they clearly are struggling to function, they may attempt to hit them, almost always on the legs, with their batons. If this seems dangerous, they will surround the person with the knife, and call in a firearms unit. This unit will, with very, very, very, few exceptions, will use their taser to incapacitate the person. Is this systems perfect? No. However it is incredibly rare that police shoot people with guns. Police killing people, in the UK, for any reason, is far more rare.

    • teft
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      171 day ago

      The japanese use the sasumata for this purpose.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 day ago

      My mans knife attacks are the primary deadly assault weapon used basically anywhere else on earth that you cant get guns from vending machines. I know that is hyperbole, but only just.

      • [email protected]
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        21 day ago

        guns from vending machines.

        So my first reaction is scoffing at how ridiculous of an idea that is, but then I think about the US and it’s not as unlikely anymore.