• Flying SquidM
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    92 months ago

    And how would you propose we do such a thing? Because if “just overthrow the government” was that easy, Donald Trump would be president right now.

    • @sandbox
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      -72 months ago

      Step one is admitting there’s a problem.

      • Flying SquidM
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        132 months ago

        Lots of people admit there’s a problem. That doesn’t answer my question.

        • @sandbox
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          -82 months ago

          If you don’t admit that there’s a problem, then answering your question would be a waste of time, because you would, most likely, just be looking for something to argue with me about, rather than considering my points in good faith.

          If you’re happy to start the conversation from a place where you admit that, yes, the US political system is so rigged that it is impossible to meaningfully reform, then I’m happy to answer your question.

          • Flying SquidM
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            82 months ago

            Sure, there’s a problem. Now please answer my question.

            • @Wappen
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              -22 months ago

              Easier said than done:

              1. Admit there’s a problem
              2. Find a sustainable solution
              3. Fight for the solution
              4. Enjoy a better society

              I think many people don’t realize they focus too much on short-term issues, which are actually symptoms of deeper systemic problems. For instance, the two-party system in the US stems from election campaigns not being publicly funded and also the “winner-takes-all” electoral system instead of proportional representation. I would bet you already know about these issues but still I don’t see them being discussed in media and that’s where every big change must begin. And that’s also what I think should answer your question. Instead of spreading awareness of the current problems at hand, you should focus on the deep issues and instead spread awareness of them. That’s my opinion at least.

              • Flying SquidM
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                92 months ago

                Nothing I do will have any effect on what the corporate-run media reports on and it’s naive to think any of us who aren’t corporate executives or their political cronies have that power.

            • @sandbox
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              -72 months ago

              The next thing you have to do is get people talking about it and admitting that there is a problem, build connections with them, and help protect and inoculate people against far-right radicalisation. This is best done in your local community, it doesn’t really work very well online, unfortunately. Build a people-centred movement based on solidarity, mutual aid/support, and collaboration. Work on building alternative structures such as co-operatives, fully mutual groups/societies, and helping people to organise their workplaces and form or join unions.

              It’s all about building solidarity, connections, helping people break free of the mind prison they were born into, and making sure that they don’t get radicalised by the far-right in the process, because their messaging is designed to appeal to people who realise how fucked our system is and promises easy “solutions”, rather than the hard work it takes to actually solve the problem.

              Once enough people are actively aware of the problem and working to build that solidarity, we can start actually something about it. By that point, you should really be working together to solve the problems which affect your community directly.

              Hope this helps, though I’m sure none of it really comes as a surprise!

              • Flying SquidM
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                102 months ago

                That’s a long-winded way of saying you don’t actually have an answer for how to, as you put it, “refuse to allow unnecessary amputations to continue.” You could have saved yourself a lot of time.

                • @sandbox
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                  -82 months ago

                  If you don’t admit that there’s a problem, then answering your question would be a waste of time, because you would, most likely, just be looking for something to argue with me about, rather than considering my points in good faith.

                  Wow, my prediction came true. Truly, I am a fortune teller.

                  • Flying SquidM
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                    62 months ago

                    Immediately after you told that so-called fortune:

                    So why are you now lying and claiming I didn’t admit there’s a problem? It’s a pretty silly lie.

              • @AbidanYre
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                82 months ago

                That’s going to take years, if not decades. Your amputation is in less than two months.