OpenAI’s big pitch for its new o1 LLM, a.k.a. “Strawberry,” is that it goes through an actual reasoning process to answer you. The computer is alive! The paperclip apocalypse is imminen…
the reason to pick Chinese may be racist (possibly due to the writing system looking complicated) but the thought experiment itself doesn’t have racist connotations imo, and i don’t think it’s stupid either. doesn’t have to involve Chinese or a specific language at all.
it’s a logical question to ask: if i can mimic speaking in a language to a point that it convinces native speakers, but don’t understand what I’m saying myself, am I considered a genuine speaker of that language? does what i say matter or have any value?
Scientists: weird, we didn’t slip this piece of paper saying “mansplain the chinese room thought experiment” through the door, and yet that’s all the room seems to want to do. I guess we just have to conclude the room is an idiot?
what an unnecessarily aggressive comment. mansplain? am i even responding to a woman? also i wasn’t trying to explain it; i was saying the central question doesn’t have to involve a specific language at all and it still a worthy question, especially with all this AI bullshit being pushed all over.
The chinese room was brought up as a tangent to a tangent, why are you doubling down on mansplaining it?
nobody was even talking about whether or not it is a good or bad concept, we were just talking about the problematic dude that made it popular
you are in a space that is critical of AI. The chinese room was brought up by name. You think we don’t know what it is and that you need to explain it?
literally all you had to do to seem even remotely reasonable was to not try mansplain AGAIN and yet you did. I wrote what I said as a joke and you went ahead and turned it into prophecy. You buffoon!!!
the comment I replied to said “that’s probably racist (in addition to being stupid)”, i took that to mean the concept, not the guy
again, i wasn’t explaining the Chinese room, just making a point that you can take out all the stuff about Chinese and the notes and whatnot and the main question would still be worth asking
you wrote it as a joke? then here’s some mansplaining for you: jokes have punchlines.
what i said was not combative or rude in any way yet you’re needlessly aggressive and insulting. go fuck yourself and take care of your fragile ego so it doesn’t shatter the next time you feel someone insulted your intelligence by saying something you already know.
the reason to pick Chinese may be racist (possibly due to the writing system looking complicated) but the thought experiment itself doesn’t have racist connotations imo, and i don’t think it’s stupid either. doesn’t have to involve Chinese or a specific language at all.
it’s a logical question to ask: if i can mimic speaking in a language to a point that it convinces native speakers, but don’t understand what I’m saying myself, am I considered a genuine speaker of that language? does what i say matter or have any value?
Scientists: weird, we didn’t slip this piece of paper saying “mansplain the chinese room thought experiment” through the door, and yet that’s all the room seems to want to do. I guess we just have to conclude the room is an idiot?
what an unnecessarily aggressive comment. mansplain? am i even responding to a woman? also i wasn’t trying to explain it; i was saying the central question doesn’t have to involve a specific language at all and it still a worthy question, especially with all this AI bullshit being pushed all over.
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the comment I replied to said “that’s probably racist (in addition to being stupid)”, i took that to mean the concept, not the guy
again, i wasn’t explaining the Chinese room, just making a point that you can take out all the stuff about Chinese and the notes and whatnot and the main question would still be worth asking
you wrote it as a joke? then here’s some mansplaining for you: jokes have punchlines.
what i said was not combative or rude in any way yet you’re needlessly aggressive and insulting. go fuck yourself and take care of your fragile ego so it doesn’t shatter the next time you feel someone insulted your intelligence by saying something you already know.
well it appears like you’re posting english, but actually you’re posting nonsense
so the answer to your question is no
elaborate? what doesn’t make sense?
no thanks