The hell ya taking about? Liberals are center, they go along with anybody as long as you “compromise”. I personally find it hilarious that both the right and left complain about liberals being in bed with the other side.
And tankies aren’t really left for the same reason nazis (national SOCIALIST) aren’t really left. Wonder how it came to be that nazis are the face of extreme right and tankies are the face of extreme left, despite them both being totalitarian fascists. In Germany the nazis were literally stealing the communist vote, they’re building on the same appeal. The idealogy of “we’re more deserving of life, because…” doesn’t really care about the because part. Left/right politics are irrelevant in the face of totality.
This right here. There’s a reason that fascism used to be called “the third position” in reference to the first two, Capitalism and Communism, and it’s because it is neither of those things but a separate third thing. It’s neither right nor left, it’s off the axis. I mean come on, the only time in history communism and capitalism actually kinda worked together was literally to kill those fucking guys.
There’s also a reason it isn’t called that anymore, it’s so that those on the communism side can say capitalists are nazis while those on the capitalist side say no u. We’d rather use them as a scapegoat to vilify others by associating them with nazis than be accurate about the fact that fascism is neither.
Is it though? Seems like there’s a lot of support for religious zealots (Iran & proxies) and imperialist authoritarians (Russia). Seems pretty auth-right.
It seems is key here. Lemmy is so left leaning that any case of such support is straight up glaring. Same even with more neutral things like patriotism - each time it’s out there, because it’s so different from the rest.
And then there’s few instances which flip it on the head from what I know…
My understanding is that socialists, anarchists, and others that might be considered “the left”, tend to love democracy. They love it so much they want to see it spread from government into the workplace. Governments that operate according to democratic republican* principals are not the enemy of the left - they’re part of it.
*note the lower case letters - not talking about political parties, but representative democracy as a philosophy
Its because Lemmy is far left. Either liberal or in some cases full on tankie
The hell ya taking about? Liberals are center, they go along with anybody as long as you “compromise”. I personally find it hilarious that both the right and left complain about liberals being in bed with the other side.
And tankies aren’t really left for the same reason nazis (national SOCIALIST) aren’t really left. Wonder how it came to be that nazis are the face of extreme right and tankies are the face of extreme left, despite them both being totalitarian fascists. In Germany the nazis were literally stealing the communist vote, they’re building on the same appeal. The idealogy of “we’re more deserving of life, because…” doesn’t really care about the because part. Left/right politics are irrelevant in the face of totality.
This right here. There’s a reason that fascism used to be called “the third position” in reference to the first two, Capitalism and Communism, and it’s because it is neither of those things but a separate third thing. It’s neither right nor left, it’s off the axis. I mean come on, the only time in history communism and capitalism actually kinda worked together was literally to kill those fucking guys.
There’s also a reason it isn’t called that anymore, it’s so that those on the communism side can say capitalists are nazis while those on the capitalist side say no u. We’d rather use them as a scapegoat to vilify others by associating them with nazis than be accurate about the fact that fascism is neither.
Is it though? Seems like there’s a lot of support for religious zealots (Iran & proxies) and imperialist authoritarians (Russia). Seems pretty auth-right.
It seems is key here. Lemmy is so left leaning that any case of such support is straight up glaring. Same even with more neutral things like patriotism - each time it’s out there, because it’s so different from the rest.
And then there’s few instances which flip it on the head from what I know…
A lot of that, I think, is because they share hate for western governments. Enemy of my enemy, I guess?
I’m not sure who “they” is in your comment?
My understanding is that socialists, anarchists, and others that might be considered “the left”, tend to love democracy. They love it so much they want to see it spread from government into the workplace. Governments that operate according to democratic republican* principals are not the enemy of the left - they’re part of it.
*note the lower case letters - not talking about political parties, but representative democracy as a philosophy
Its only alt right if you are left leaning
It really just a matter of perspective