• @creamy
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    23 hours ago

    There’s been no evidence of genocide. I have plenty of criticisms of the Israeli government, and if you were arguing it’s indiscriminate you’d have a point. But genocide? No. We don’t call Hiroshima a genocide and that was far worse than what’s happening in Gaza. We don’t call Dresden a genocide. We don’t call shock and awe in Iraq a genocide.

    Words have meaning.

      • @creamy
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        141 minutes ago

        The rate of bombing in Gaza has drastically slowed compared to the opening stages of the war. Israel can be accused of being too blase about civilian death, but there is no evidence of systematic attempts to eradicate the Arab population entirely. I have yet to see any credible evidence of anything but Israel having a disturbing willingness to kill 10 to get 1, if you get me. That’s horrific enough, you don’t need to exaggerate it by calling it genocide. There’s plenty of legitimate enough concerns about Israel’s bombing campaign without resorting to sensationalism.

        Huge, huge, difference between not caring if you hit the next building by accident in an otherwise precise airstrike, and rounding up and killing them all. You should account for the inherent destructiveness of modern urban warfare also. Go on google earth and look at what the Russians did to cities in East Ukraine. Just because something is horrible, tragic, awful, doesn’t make it a genocide. It is impossible to fight a war against an entity like Hamas and not have innocent people hit in the crossfire. Israel is in an unwinnable position in that sense. It either lets hamas terrorize it’s population, or it fires back and risks killing innocent people.

        It’s a complex situation is what I’m getting it. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else to suit some juvenile good/bad narrative

        • Flying SquidM
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          039 minutes ago

          Juvenile? I gave you expert opinions.

          • @creamy
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            124 minutes ago

            And I have good reason to believe they are wrong. 😊

            • Flying SquidM
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              123 minutes ago

              Which is what? What expert opinion do you have? Or is this one of these “I know better than the experts” things?

              • @creamy
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                114 minutes ago

                Half a million other experts on the internet.

                I said my bit, look up what’s in it yourself.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  112 minutes ago

                  Except they aren’t experts. People who work for the UN and Human Rights Watch are. I’m not sure why you are equating random internet commenters to them. That’s highly dishonest. It’s like saying that you know more about the brain than a neurologist because a lot of internet commenters agree with you. The universe doesn’t work that way.

                  • @creamy
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                    11 minute ago

                    I’m not going to get into the internal politics of the UN or the shit track record when it comes to accuracy that the activist wing has. Fact is you and me both know you can find a source that says anything you want. It’s irrelevant and boring on top of that. I’m not doing homework for you.

                    I gave you a couple paragraphs explaining my reasoning. Now if you want to talk about that then fine