• @[email protected]
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    152 months ago

    The really early USSR was socially progressive, including legal tolerance of homosexuality. Stalin absolutely shut that down.

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      Yeah, most early communism was VERY egalitarian for women (not really sure about homosexuals, those don’t tend to feature much in 19th century writings), but that got rapidly stomped into the ground later.

      And as much as tankies love to preach you need to read the source material, they mostly don’t.

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        My god, last time the fact I’ve actually read Das Kapital came up, they pretty much just went for “no you didn’t”. Yes I did, and I didn’t even get a T-shirt for the densely-written pain.

        As per the gay thing, it was part of the blanket repeal of Tsarist laws, and didn’t get put back in until Stalin was on the scene. In the meanwhile advocacy groups sprang up and were tolerated, so that tells you it wasn’t just on paper. I have no idea if anyone has gone deeper into the historical sources for our benefit. (Preferably in English, because my Russian is кое-как)

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          My god, last time the fact I’ve actually read Das Kapital came up, they pretty much just went for “no you didn’t”. Yes I did, and I didn’t even get a T-shirt for the densely-written pain.

          You’re a stronger man than I. I’ve read (and appreciated!) other Marx, but Das Kapital is like trying to eat a desert’s worth of sand without even the mercy of a glass of water.

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            Pretty much. And then once you unfuck the language what he’s actually saying is pretty underwhelming. Hours I’ll never get back…